Breakdown of the Hiring of Butch Jones

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1. Jones is a winning coach in smaller leagues, but still unknown if he can coach among the elite. While he comes to Tennessee with a better track record than Dooley, he has done nothing to merit an SEC job with a task in front of him such as this.

2. Hart repeatedly stated he wanted to unite the fan base. This hire does the exact OPPOSITE of that. Not only is it a boring hire, it is one that was very vocally spoken out against.

3. Tennessee just came off of the "give the guy 3-4 years to prove himself" mentality. There is no way this should be acceptable ONCE, let alone two hires in a row.

4. Hart botched this one. Plain and simple. Maybe if Strong would've said yes or even Gundy, he could have justified those hires. There is ZERO chance he can justify the hire of Jone. The ONLY thing I want Hart to say in the press conference is, "Well, our first 8 choices turned us down..." If Hart gets up there and parades around as if Jones was his #1 pick all along, I swear I will come unglued. Unfortunately, I can see him doing exactly this.

5. Hart and Cheek have to go. Not so much because they absolutely have made Tennessee football the yearly laughing stock of the NCAA, but it goes much deeper than that. The main problem with them is that NO ONE WANTS TO COME WORK FOR/WITH THEM! It shows in all aspects--this "coaching search" is the culmination of humiliation exemplified through rejection after rejection after rejection.

6. Hart bombed this. From the get go. From the way Dooley was allowed to flounder. To the haughty and prideful declaration from him that HE would handle the entirety of the search and NO ONE would be involved. He is a one man show and unfortunately, this turned out to be a one man wrecking ball to a program with (once) respected tradition. To the public humiliation. To the unwillingness to put rumors to bed as other AD's do ALL THE TIME (see UofL's AD's statements and UNC's AD's statements...). The AD is the voice of the athletic department and he failed this very responsibility.

7. I cannot wait to start hearing the stories that will come out about the search. From boosters, AD members, players, other candidates. It is NOT going to end well for Hart, and sadly I say, for Tennessee either.

8. Coach Davis deserves a chance, as he is now the new coach. But, that does not mean that voices of displeasure cannot be voiced to Hart and the AD. Support the team and the new coach, but it has to be made clear that THIS is not what Tennessee should be. It should not be relegated to taking choice #10 on a list after being publicly turned down by even Joe Paterno himself. Something has to change. We have a new coach now. Unfortunately the management HAS TO CHANGE NOW OR WE STAND NO CHANCE IN THE FUTURE.

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9. Tyler Bray in a spread offense would look like Rosie O'Donnell in a bikini contest. Say goodbye to Patterson, Hunter, James AND BRAY.
 
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Cincy lost their 3 games this year by a combined 16 points! 4 conference titles in 6 years....We will compete.
 
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Jones recruiting is what terrifies me...He has never cracked the top 40 in recruiting anywhere he's been...He really needs to run Sal Sunseri out of town and get some big time recruiters on that staff....I am not happy this morning.
 
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I think he wanted Jones all along, so he made a show of going after Gundy (who played at Okie St.) even though he was clearly just trying to get leverage with his AD.

He would have taken Strong, but knew that Strong's program loyalties were hard to overcome. The embarrassment of having someone choose Papa John's field over Neyland Stadium cleared an opening for Jones.

Jones turned down two other pay raises, so it was clear that he knew he'd get the job after the smoke cleared.

Jones needs to get a recruiting team together now. I think he has all the elements to win at UT if (BIG IF) he gets the players.
 
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Jones recruiting is what terrifies me...He has never cracked the top 40 in recruiting anywhere he's been...He really needs to run Sal Sunseri out of town and get some big time recruiters on that staff....I am not happy this morning.


Would you call central Mich. or CInci a top 40 program? From my research it looks like he recruited to the level of the school.
 
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The bigger question is did Cincy improve when Kelley left or did they regress? I think we know that answer.
 
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He will have to hire two good/very good coordinators and three excellent recruiters to have a chance. Otherwise, we will be run over.
 
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Jones beat his first top 25 "team" in his career this year when he squeaked by #25 Virginia Tech 27-24, VT finished the season 6-6, eye roll.
 
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And we hired a Michigan guy with a wife named Barb.

Lol, it gets better and better.

(For you idiots, I'm joking).
 
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8. Coach Davis deserves a chance, as he is now the new coach. But, that does not mean that voices of displeasure cannot be voiced to Hart and the AD. Support the team and the new coach, but it has to be made clear that THIS is not what Tennessee should be. It should not be relegated to taking choice #10 on a list after being publicly turned down by even Joe Paterno himself. Something has to change. We have a new coach now. Unfortunately the management HAS TO CHANGE NOW OR WE STAND NO CHANCE IN THE FUTURE.

Did you mean Coach Jones?
 
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Jones recruiting is what terrifies me...He has never cracked the top 40 in recruiting anywhere he's been...He really needs to run Sal Sunseri out of town and get some big time recruiters on that staff....I am not happy this morning.

That's the horsefly in the ointment. If he can get the players, he will be a much better coach than Kiffin, Dooley, or Zombie Fulmer (as he was the last few years).
 
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Time to fire Hart, Cheek, and Martin. Skeeter said Cheek and Martin are the two biggest problems. According to Ainge, we had Butch Davis with an excellent staff and Cheek stopped it. My guess is Martin had a lot to do with this. Ainge confirmed my suspensions about the AD Compliance staff not wanting to work for their pay check. We have a bunch of Nancy's in the AD and they all need to go. Skeeter has said about as much also.

MARTIN and CHEEK are the two that need to receive a lot of pressure about this FUBAR situation.
 
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Cincy lost their 3 games this year by a combined 16 points! 4 conference titles in 6 years....We will compete.

Are you effing serious?!? he plays in the big east. UCONN was good a couple of years ago.

Stop being blind to the fact this was a bottom of the barrel hire.
 
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1. Jones is a winning coach in smaller leagues, but still unknown if he can coach among the elite. While he comes to Tennessee with a better track record than Dooley, he has done nothing to merit an SEC job with a task in front of him such as this.

2. Hart repeatedly stated he wanted to unite the fan base. This hire does the exact OPPOSITE of that. Not only is it a boring hire, it is one that was very vocally spoken out against.

3. Tennessee just came off of the "give the guy 3-4 years to prove himself" mentality. There is no way this should be acceptable ONCE, let alone two hires in a row.

4. Hart botched this one. Plain and simple. Maybe if Strong would've said yes or even Gundy, he could have justified those hires. There is ZERO chance he can justify the hire of Jone. The ONLY thing I want Hart to say in the press conference is, "Well, our first 8 choices turned us down..." If Hart gets up there and parades around as if Jones was his #1 pick all along, I swear I will come unglued. Unfortunately, I can see him doing exactly this.

5. Hart and Cheek have to go. Not so much because they absolutely have made Tennessee football the yearly laughing stock of the NCAA, but it goes much deeper than that. The main problem with them is that NO ONE WANTS TO COME WORK FOR/WITH THEM! It shows in all aspects--this "coaching search" is the culmination of humiliation exemplified through rejection after rejection after rejection.

6. Hart bombed this. From the get go. From the way Dooley was allowed to flounder. To the haughty and prideful declaration from him that HE would handle the entirety of the search and NO ONE would be involved. He is a one man show and unfortunately, this turned out to be a one man wrecking ball to a program with (once) respected tradition. To the public humiliation. To the unwillingness to put rumors to bed as other AD's do ALL THE TIME (see UofL's AD's statements and UNC's AD's statements...). The AD is the voice of the athletic department and he failed this very responsibility.

7. I cannot wait to start hearing the stories that will come out about the search. From boosters, AD members, players, other candidates. It is NOT going to end well for Hart, and sadly I say, for Tennessee either.

8. Coach Davis deserves a chance, as he is now the new coach. But, that does not mean that voices of displeasure cannot be voiced to Hart and the AD. Support the team and the new coach, but it has to be made clear that THIS is not what Tennessee should be. It should not be relegated to taking choice #10 on a list after being publicly turned down by even Joe Paterno himself. Something has to change. We have a new coach now. Unfortunately the management HAS TO CHANGE NOW OR WE STAND NO CHANCE IN THE FUTURE.

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9. Tyler Bray in a spread offense would look like Rosie O'Donnell in a bikini contest. Say goodbye to Patterson, Hunter, James AND BRAY.

Strong and Jones coach in the same league. Jones has won a share of the Big East Title in 2 of his 3 years including this year. He was just named Big East Coach of the Year for the 2012 season. He is 2-1 against Strong.
 
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I've had the pleasure of watching some of Coach Jones practices and the man can coach and he has a ton of energy. IMO he will do well here and eventually gain the support of the fan base. He reminds me of Bruce Pearl without the whole lying thing. He would even go to a lot of UC basketball games to support his school. Students will love him
 

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