Brent Is getting Robbed????

#26
#26
You see you know what i am saying they wont give him a chance Like you said Payton was one of the best BUT what did he win???My personall view Tee Martin was a better collage quaterback than Payton.Brent Wont get him chance because Payton Jr is out there Heck i know he is getting the job done but what if you have a better quaterback on the sideline???And he could be making even bigger plays!!
 
#27
#27
I know it's en vogue right now to have a scrambling QB like Michael Vick, but the fact is that Schaeffer is playing like a Freshman and Ainge is not. The coaches see these guys in practice every day, and I'm sure if they thought that Schaeffer was the better alternative, they'd have him in there.
 
#28
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Originally posted by volattic@Oct 15, 2004 9:07 AM
Like you said Payton was one of the best BUT what did he win???

He won 39 games, more than any quarterback in SEC history. He helped win the 1997 SEC Championship and a spot in the then so-called "national championship game" versus Nebraska (the Big10 and Pac10 were not part of the pre-BCS alignment). He won the Maxwell Award. And he helped elevate the Vols program to elite football program status. His excellence in the NFL (last season's co-MVP) also continues to help the Vols status as big-time college program.
 
#29
#29
You see you know what i am saying they wont give him a chance Like you said Payton was one of the best BUT what did he win???My personall view Tee Martin was a better collage quaterback than Payton.Brent Wont get him chance because Payton Jr is out there Heck i know he is getting the job done but what if you have a better quaterback on the sideline???And he could be making even bigger plays!!


First off, his name is Peyton and don't go bad mouthing Peyton or you won't get too far. Tee was awsome and i loved him but they don't compare! I promise that the Coach's aren't looking at Ainge and thinking "finally the next Peyton". They have given Brent a chance and will continue giving him playing time.

REMEMBER, THEY DO PRACTICE AND WE DON"T GET TO SEE THAT!
 
#30
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2004 10:17 AM
I know it's en vogue right now to have a scrambling QB like Michael Vick, but the fact is that Schaeffer is playing like a Freshman and Ainge is not. The coaches see these guys in practice every day, and I'm sure if they thought that Schaeffer was the better alternative, they'd have him in there.

I agree with you on that.
 
#31
#31
People seem to forget that Ainge Stated the vols System was similar to what he played in high school. Were I' sure Brents was very diffrent.

That would give a big Advantage to Ainge.

We seem to forget this time last year they were still in high school.
 
#32
#32
The offense here does look pretty similar... Although since Ainge left, a lot of our high school's coaching staff has been changed around, too, doesn't look the same any more. Anyways, cool action pic:

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Erik Ainge hands off to Glencoe resident badass Ian Atkins who makes a sweet-looking run against cross-town rivals, Hillsboro High School.
 
#33
#33
what did Stewart do when he left UT (not much that I can remember) they made the right choice then and they'll make the right one now. I thought stewart looked better than Manning at first myself but we don't see what the coaches see and the troops rallied around Manning, he was more than a QB he was a leader.
 
#34
#34
Stewart transferred to Texas A&M and played very sporadically.

In a QB controversey, I've always thought that the guy who can run around is always going to look better at first since neither QB has a grasp of the offense, but as they learn the system, it becomes a matter of who can progress the most and manage the offense the best.

 
#35
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 15, 2004 2:11 PM
In a QB controversey, I've always thought that the guy who can run around is always going to look better at first since neither QB has a grasp of the offense, but as they learn the system, it becomes a matter of who can progress the most and manage the offense the best.

:good:
 
#36
#36
Volman.....ur an idiot.....we r 4-1....that means the coaches r doin good....they got the qbs ready to go didnt they....ainge has proven himself.....the decision is right....and when shaeffer does have a chance to throw....he looks at one guy and runs.....i like em both but it sounds like ur against the coaches who r winnin games right now.....u cant play a guy thats not gettin the job done...think bout it
 
#37
#37
Yeah i agree Peyton(excuss me im not perfect like you) is a great qb but how many national Championship rings is on his finger uhhhhhhh Not as many as Tee has i am not bad mouthing anyone i am just say i dont think Brent is getting a fair shake.I am not complaining where winnning aren't we???I just don't want to see someone with his ability go to waste anyone ever heard of C.J. Leak?ok my point proven.
 
#38
#38
personally I don't think anything was wasted on Leak, he is a second string QB at best, he had 5 years to develope and he didn't get it done. I like him but he was not the biggest stud in the stable and he is right where he belongs... the sideline. Same goes for Clausen(Rick).
 
#39
#39
I shall parlay with that YOU arent giving Ainge a chance. You just see that he is getting more playtime and bashing everyone for it. So are you trying to say you dont think Ainge is that great a quarterback and we should put in Shaeffer. After the UNLV game i was a huge Schaeffer supporter, and thought he could be a great QB. The sad truth is since that game, his play had deteriorated, possibly due to pressure to outperform Ainge. The INT he had against Auburn pretty much sealed it for me, as he should have been able to throw a rope to the reciever, yet the reason he was picked off was because he threw a floater. This was after the prior weeks of have very little pocket presence. By that I mean he doesnt seem to be able to feel the rush, and get the ball away before it hits him. His fumbles have come from being blindsided by blitzers he never even saw. This is a twofold problem, as now he has become too edgy when he is at QB, and oft takes off when he "thinks" he feels the pocket collapsing. Look back at all his plays the past few games (not that many to have to go through). Too many times he was stepping up into the pocket, then trying to run it because he percieved wrongly that it was collapsing on him... sadly when he then headed towards the line of scrimmage he WAS vulnerable to the defenders who usually sacked him. Had he sat back in the pocket he would have had a better view of the field, and could have hit his recievers who usually were open. As it stands i think we are trying to put a square peg in a round hole here. He would be great as a reciever and even offers that option to use him in a fake reverse type situation. As a QB i think he is average at best. Somehow he is going to have to learn to feel the pressure, anticipate the rushes and get rid of the ball or cover it up before getting hit. Right now he just isnt doing it and that is just too dangerous for the team.

That said, we have a few games coming up where we should, and I emphasize should because i think all of us know about UT's ability to play DOWN to their opponents and have huge letdowns, be able to run up the score, and this provides plenty of time to put Schaeffer in and work him harder than he has been the past few weeks. Pray for blowouts.

lastly i think it really all comes down to one true thing. Who is the one who brings the team together? So far all i have seen quote wise from the players was positives about Ainge, how he has spread the ball around, etc. Your teammates seem to work harder when you have a bond with them, and will make you look better than you sometimes are, cause they know in a few plays, you are going to do the same for them.


ps Anyone been watching the Falcons this year? they are winning IN SPITE of Vick IMO. Not many Atlanta recievers are happy, and frankl; I am hugely annoyed because I have had Peerless Price on my fantasy team and he has yet to do crap because all Vick can ever seem to throw to is the Tight End when he needs to bail out one of his runs...
 
#40
#40
I have noticed Vick has been taking way too many rushing yards... And unlike Schaeffer, Vick actually can throw the ball pretty well. And with a reciever like Peerless Price, why wouldn't you? Vick needs to start acting more QB-like; His running is a great ability, IMO, but he is becoming predictable. A good QB should be able to read the field and put the ball where it needs to be firstly, then make a 10 yard rush secondly.

And I don't even know why this is still being debated - Erik is playing better than Schaeffer, so Erik gets more minutes. Schaeffer needs to cool his running impulse before he can prove whether or not he can hang in there against SEC defenders. His running ability may have made him a High School hero in Florida, but he will need much more than that. Erik, on the other hand, is learning, adopting and figuring things out fast and stepping up his game.
 
#42
#42
You said Vick only Throws to Tight Ends when he bails out i guess it working they are 4-1. Ok botton line i dont care who is in there Where winning and that is all that matters.
 
#43
#43
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Volattic,
If Schaeffer had a break out game and started playing better than Ainge I would be the first to jump on his back and ride him to the promise land but that just hasn't happened. After the UNLV game, Schaeffer was my favorite and my choice . I thought, how could you sit a kid with his ability on the bench? They didn't put him on the bench, they started him the next few games! Ainge's ability is better and decision making has been far better. Either way, a good football team always has a good back up and i like them both.

Peerless has been a bust for me the past 2 years in fantasy football! :bad: I don't know what the problem is. Vick has a cannon and they say it will take him a while to get the west coast system down. It seems to me that Vick is trying to think pass first, maybe he should go back to the run. :eek:
 
#44
#44
Very Tue But i will tell you this it is 9:39 and gameday i dont care if it is brent,erik,jim bob,or a towel boy who ever gets the job done stick with it and lets kick some :shakeit:
 
#45
#45
Plain and simple guys,CPF is using what works.I'm very pleased with our playing so far except for that Auburn game,we were man held on that one.As the old saying goes,If it aint broke don't fix it.Go Volsssssssss.
 

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