Brent Schaeffer...Or The Lack There Of

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Ok everyone...this post is in no way bashing out beloved Ainge. However, I am somewhat dissappointed at Fulmers decision to not stick by his plan. The dual QB system faded so fast that I could not believe it. I am pretty much wondering why when Ainge starts performing poorly Brent does not get the chance to step up and make a play. If UT isn't careful, Schaeffer will transfer to a school with a starting job(and there will be plenty in the next couple years). And who could blame him, he went from starter to no playing time. He has the ability to develop into a powerful Michael Vick-esqe weapon and we are skipping out on it. I ugre Phil to go back to a dual QB system and save us the fate of Schaeffer playing against us one day.

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19 years of UT love in the making
 
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I agree with you. We have to utilize both Ainge and Schaeffer, and see which of the two would do better at the starting QB position. I like the idea of having a QB who can run and throw very well, and I also like how Ainge is playing. I say to go with the two-QB system this season. :rocks:
 
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Well, for the rest of the scheduled season, there are mostly "gimme" games on the schedule (I know SC will put up a fight; I meant that we should be able to win out the rest of the season), so Brent will get more playing time. CPF will give him a second chance, that will be the first and most important thing if he wants to keep Schaeffer in orange.
 
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Schaeffer has brought alot of it on himself according to your beloved Fulmer!
 
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Ainge has the better talent at the qb postion. Ainge is more mature. If Schaeffer leaves, I wish him the best of luck. If he stays, I don't see him starting ahead of Ainge.....but if he does leave I'm almost sure we get Crompton.
 
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Originally posted by UTVOLFAN@Oct 25, 2004 1:15 AM
I ugre Phil to go back to a dual QB system and save us the fate of Schaeffer playing against us one day.
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I can guarantee you one thing, the coaches will NOT make any personnel decisions based on keeping a Freshman happy. Schaeffer has to get comfortable in the pocket reading a defense before he can help us out. He made some plays against UNLV and La Tech, but he's looked awful in limited action since.

After Shuler, Manning, Martin and Clausen, I think you have to defer to the coaches. They obviously know how to pick a QB.
 
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Originally posted by UTVOLFAN@Oct 25, 2004 12:15 AM
Ok everyone...this post is in no way bashing out beloved Ainge. However, I am somewhat dissappointed at Fulmers decision to not stick by his plan. The dual QB system faded so fast that I could not believe it. I am pretty much wondering why when Ainge starts performing poorly Brent does not get the chance to step up and make a play.
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I think it's fairly obvious to everyone who has watched the brief playing time Brent has been given in the last few games that he is not ready and not comfortable yet. NO knock on him, most freshmen wouldn't be at this point.

So, do you really think he should have been "given a chance" while we're in the middle of a close one with Alabama? Just wondering if you'd feel the same had he come in, fumbled, and cost us the game, all for the sake of keeping him happy?

Look, I think that if he sticks around, he'll have his shots. In the meantime, study tape, study the offense, and WORK HARD. He doesn't deserve anything, just like Ainge doesn't. At this point in the season, you get what you earn.

Schaeffer's stats for the last 4 games that he played in:
Passing 5-15-71, 1 TD, 1 Int, 4 Sacks
Rushing 11 attempts, Net 1 Yard
 
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I agree.Until Schaeffer can look comfortable in the pocket,he will remain on the sidelines,but how the hell does he get the chance to prove himself if that's all he's doing is standing on the sidelines?
 
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I think at this point the biggest reason is that the last few games have been so dang close. In a game when every possession is so vital I think Fulmer prefers to have Ainge in there right now since he has the most game experience. I agree that we will see more of Brent in the last couple of games.
 
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Yeah we will see more of Scheaffer if we are up by a big margin or Ainge starts screwing up really bad.
 
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keep in mind we're 1 play 1 injury away from Schaeffer being the starting qb at UT. I sincerely hope that CPF and the offensive powers that be realize this already. I also hope schaeffer himself knows this and is prepared.
 
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You prove you deserve playing time in practice! Schaeffer hasn't been doing his part.
 
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Originally posted by TNVOLS1@Oct 25, 2004 3:35 PM
You prove you deserve playing time in practice! Schaeffer hasn't been doing his part.
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Exactly - Some people seem to forget that the coaches see Schaeffer every day in practice. The second that they think that he manage the offense better than Ainge, he'll be in there.
 
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I wouldn't say Schaeffer is any kind of Michael Vick-esqe. Yes, he's a hell of an athlete, but when we need a big play its Ainge who steps up and delivers.
 
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GAVOL : "After Shuler, Manning, Martin and Clausen, I think you have to defer to the coaches. They obviously know how to pick a QB."

I find it sad, that a vol fan would put Clausen in a list with Heath, Peyton and Tee. Clausen was a mistake; a mistake that cost us 2 peach bowls and a pitiful losss to Georgia last year..
 
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Of course Clausen never beat a Spurrier coached UF team in the swap, or whopped the hell out of Michigan in a bowl gam... oh crap, I forgot... he DID!

I hated Clausen as much as the next Vol, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't the best QB we had AT THAT TIME. Suggs did crap at GT, and we have all seen CJ struggle for the past whatever years he's been here after transferring from Wake. GIve Clausen a break, so he couldn't even make a NFL practice squad, he still led the Vols to a lot of victories.
 
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Schaeffer needs to learn that as a QB you must think pass first, then run. Until he figures out that these boys can catch him around the pocket, he will never be good.
 
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Originally posted by rwemyss@Oct 25, 2004 8:49 PM
Of course Clausen never beat a Spurrier coached UF team in the swap, or whopped the hell out of Michigan in a bowl gam... oh crap, I forgot... he DID!
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You forgot beating Miami.
 
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Originally posted by UTVOLFAN@Oct 25, 2004 9:46 PM
Clausen was a mistake;
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A mistake that yielded 75 TD passes and almost 10,000 yards passing. :dunno:

If Clausen was so bad, what would you have preferred the coaches do . . . stick it out with Joey Mathews and AJ Suggs?
 
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A couple of stats for you:

Career numbers for CC, HS, and TM:

HS: 4089 yards, 61.6%, 36 TD
TM: 4592 yards, 55%, 32 TD
CC: 9707 yards, 61%, 75 TD

Clausen has 6 of the top 40 passing performances, Shuler and Martin 1 each

Clausen has the longest pass play from scrimmage in recent UT history (90 yards)

I know that CC played in more games, but numbers speak for themselves, and in most instances, he wasn't far off of Manning's pace. Don't forget the big wins highlighted by rwemyss and allvol.

Not all losses are the fault of the QB (See record vs. Florida, Peyton Manning), so don't just chalk up a couple of sub-par years or bad losses to the quality of our QB.

Who would you have played?
 
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allvol Posted on Oct 26, 2004 8:09 AM
  QUOTE (rwemyss @ Oct 25, 2004 8:49 PM)
Of course Clausen never beat a Spurrier coached UF team in the swap, or whopped the hell out of Michigan in a bowl gam... oh crap, I forgot... he DID!



You forgot beating Miami
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My bad... :dlol: all this Clausen praise really hurts me, b/c at the same time, he lost two PEACH BOWLS to ACC crap schools. It's the nature of college football, I guess. :blink:
 
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This is just my opinion and I am only going on the few games that I have seen Tennessee play this year. Remember I am an Alabama fan so I don't see your games every week. But the best choice is Ainge. No he didn't do fantastic against us, but he threw for one TD, and how many did it take to beat us???.....ONE. He found a way to win and I have a lot of respect for the kid. Especially after Ole Miss. ALL freshman will make mistakes, but Ainge never seems to get rattled by them, and always finds a way to make something happen to fix his mistake(s). I just don't see Brent fitting in w/ the offense as well. I hate to say it, but he'll probably go somewhere else(if he's smart, he'll stay b/c at Tenn. he'll will get chances to win big bowls, and myabe even a chapionship.) But it depends on if he wants to play, if it was me, I'd stay and be part of a winning program. But, that's just my opinion.
 
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the body language on the sidelines looked like Brent was not having a good time any more.... he is probably gone if they can't convince him to switch positions.... and if we end up playing against him so be it ... it didn't hurt us too bad when Chrissy leak went else where same goes for Crompton ( i hope he joins the team but if he doesn't somebody will step up and replace him)
 
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Originally posted by volmanjr@Oct 26, 2004 3:54 PM
the body language on the sidelines looked like Brent was not having a good time any more.... he is probably gone if they can't convince him to switch positions.... and if we end up playing against him so be it ... it didn't hurt us too bad when Chrissy leak went else where same goes for Crompton ( i hope he joins the team but if he doesn't somebody will step up and replace him)
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My feelings exactly. While I hope that Schaeffer stays and Crompton comes on anyway, I'm really not all that concerned about it. If Brent does decide to leave, I wish him the best and hope he has a great career, much the same way I felt about Brandon Stewart. As for Crompton, I'm not gonna get overly pumped up about a player who has yet to play a down at UT. If he comes here that's awesome (assuming that he's all he is hyped to be), but, as we found out with Chris Sims, we don't have him till he gets here.
 
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