Brian Kelly

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My best comparison is Brian Kelly is a mark richt. He gna win the games he supposed to but never gna win the games he's not supposed too
 
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VOLnFLA said:
Can anyone pls explain to me why Brian Kelly is considered a great coach? If u go back and look up his games Bama in '22 is the only team he has beaten going back to Notre Dame that has equal or more talent. He only beats teams with less talent. I don't get why the media is so enamored by him. Pls and thank u. GO VOLS
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Same can be said for Kirby though, who has he beat that he didn’t clearly have a talent advantage over?
 
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DaddyChad said:
He’s decent that’s all he ever was. He just didn’t play anyone consistently until he got to lsu.
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He was pretty good, maybe never elite. I know whatever excitement i had for Butch was falsely given to him because i hoped he would be as good as Kelly. Being at Notre Dame as long as he was was a bad move on his part. Brian Kelly at LSU 6 or 7 years ago for sure wins a title or two. He just waited to long to make a move. Or maybe not, what do i know.
 
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Dirtyhairies said:
He was pretty good, maybe never elite. I know whatever excitement i had for Butch was falsely given to him because i hoped he would be as good as Kelly. Being at Notre Dame as long as he was was a bad move on his part. Brian Kelly at LSU 6 or 7 years ago for sure wins a title or two. He just waited to long to make a move. Or maybe not, what do i know.
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Ed Orgeron was able to win a title there. I don't know of any school that can claim the previous three coaches all won a national title there. Maybe OSU.
 
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LouderVol said:
Ed Orgeron was able to win a title there. I don't know of any school that can claim the previous three coaches all won a national title there. Maybe OSU.
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That'd be an interesting little research project. Ohio St cannot claim that (even if you disregard Luke Fickell's one-year interim stint). John Cooper didn't win a title.
 
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How’s he gonna feel when ED O wins a title at LSU and he doesent?

Or who is he gonna throw under the bus?
 
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05_never_again said:
That'd be an interesting little research project. Ohio St cannot claim that (even if you disregard Luke Fickell's one-year interim stint). John Cooper didn't win a title.
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Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is Miami with Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, and Dennis Erickson.
 
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Boston Vol said:
Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is Miami with Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, and Dennis Erickson.
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I went to go see Alabama coaches and holy hell Jennings Whitworth, what the **** were you doing for 3 years!?!?! 4-24-2??? AT ALABAMA?!?!?!!
 
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zjcvols said:
I went to go see Alabama coaches and holy hell Jennings Whitworth, what the **** were you doing for 3 years!?!?! 4-24-2??? AT ALABAMA?!?!?!!
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Whitworth came in and implemented a "youth movement." He actually benched Bart Starr for his senior season. Starr prepped for the NFL draft by throwing footballs thru a tire in his in-laws' yard.

That Whitworth turned out to be a disaster should come as no surprise.
 
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Found another...Michigan. Harry Kipke, Fritz Crisler, and Bennie Oosterbaan won a total of 5 titles from 1929 to 1958.

Hell, not only is it difficult to find 3 in a row...it's hard to find just 2.

Notre Dame has 2 in a row (Parseghian/Devine) and 3 out of 4 (Holtz)
Alabama has 2 in a row (Wade/Thomas) and 3 out of 5 (Bryant)
USC has 2 in a row (McKay/Robinson)
Notable: Ohio St and Oklahoma have never even had 2 in a row. Also, on a technicality Minnesota had 2 out of 3 head coaches win titles. Bernie Bierman won 5 national titles. He had a replacement who didn't win one, then Bierman returned. He had another replacement who didn't win one, and then the guy who replaced him (Murray Warmath) won a title. So technically they had a run where 2 out of 3 of those coaches won titles.
 
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rjd970 said:
Same can be said for Kirby though, who has he beat that he didn’t clearly have a talent advantage over?
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He beat Alabama in 22 and Ohio State in 23.
Wrecked Michigan in 22 although Michigan did not have the personnel to go against that defense to your point.
 
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05_never_again said:
Found another...Michigan. Harry Kipke, Fritz Crisler, and Bennie Oosterbaan won a total of 5 titles from 1929 to 1958.

Hell, not only is it difficult to find 3 in a row...it's hard to find just 2.

Notre Dame has 2 in a row (Parseghian/Devine) and 3 out of 4 (Holtz)
Alabama has 2 in a row (Wade/Thomas) and 3 out of 5 (Bryant)
USC has 2 in a row (McKay/Robinson)
Notable: Ohio St and Oklahoma have never even had 2 in a row. Also, on a technicality Minnesota had 2 out of 3 head coaches win titles. Bernie Bierman won 5 national titles. He had a replacement who didn't win one, then Bierman returned. He had another replacement who didn't win one, and then the guy who replaced him (Murray Warmath) won a title. So technically they had a run where 2 out of 3 of those coaches won titles.
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FSU with Bobby Bowden and Jimbo
Nebraska with Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne
 
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Boston Vol said:
Off the top of my head, the only one I can think of is Miami with Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, and Dennis Erickson.
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While a lower level, NDSU might be worth looking into.

Coaches take bigger jobs but they just keep winning.
 
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stolitonic said:
While a lower level, NDSU might be worth looking into.

Coaches take bigger jobs but they just keep winning.
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Not counting their current coach who is current in his first season, they've had:

- 3 in a row
- 6 of the last 7
- 8 of the last 11

It is amazing to me how the best FCS programs are clustered in the Dakotas and Montana. Whatever NDSU does as a program, they do it right. Other than some guy named Bob Babich, every coach that they have had since 1979 won at least one title. Other than Babich, every coach they've had since 1985 won multiple titles. Pretty amazing.
 
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Zues1 said:
Apparently the LSU administration thought he was a great coach>>>>>salary.
I personally think he's an average coach but an above average jerk.
I'm quite happy he's in Baton Rouge...😉
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Yes. I live in Baton Rouge, and shake my head in disgust every time the local TV stations interview him. He just seems so fake, like everything he is saying is staged, calculated, used car salesman vibe.
 
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Didn’t realize this had already posted. I think I was closing a pesky ad.
 
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zjcvols said:
(Old man standing up meme)

Despite being an *******, I think Brian Kelly is an excellent college football coach.
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If college football had a coach selection draft and I had the 15th overall pick, I’d be happy to choose him. He’s not going top 5 for me.
 
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