Bryce Brown: A Lesson in Pride

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Ace said:
I agree with you. When you (OP) take pleasure in another person's misfortune, it says more about you than the other person.
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Yeah, especially when he refers to another's pride. What's more prideful than kicking a guy when he is down?
 
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His 1st game he started after High School was MNF and he rushed for 178 yards, which puts him in the Eagles record books.
 
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TheBigOne10 said:
Just because he stayed doesn't mean he would have developed into a first rounder. He had a decent freshman season, but not up to his 5 star billing behind Hardesty.
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I'll take Hardesty any day. If he was not injury prone he could have been a premier running back. Was pretty darn good his senior year.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
On October 27, 2015, Brown signed with the Seattle Seahawks. On November 21, 2015, he was waived.

Had he played it straight at UT, he'd have come out after his 3rd year in the 1st or 2nd round with a fat contract to set him up for life.

Instead, he came out as a free agent, had undeveloped skills, and now must get a job.

A word to the wise: Game the system at your peril.
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Yeah, Derek Dooley really knew how to develop talent.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
On October 27, 2015, Brown signed with the Seattle Seahawks. On November 21, 2015, he was waived.

Had he played it straight at UT, he'd have come out after his 3rd year in the 1st or 2nd round with a fat contract to set him up for life.

Instead, he came out as a free agent, had undeveloped skills, and now must get a job.

A word to the wise: Game the system at your peril.
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He was always a pre Madonna , and you all are making his dad an escape goat for Bryce's own lack of pocket presents., and the fact that he didn't stay in school long enough to be the valid validictorian.
 
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The real reason Bryce's father did not want him to play at UT anymore was because the incoming OL was freshmen and sophomores. He was afraid the kid would look bad on TV and his draft stock was slip. So he decided to sit him for 2 years. This was an admission that the kid wasn't the #1 recruit in the country. And, it left UT with a bunch of 3* RBs. But, pi&&ing on UT was in season at the time, with the departure of Kiffin and his staff.

The correct and honest move would have been for the Browns to say, this University is where We committed, and we keep our commitments, and we have faith that things will work out. Instead, they chose to game the system, and everybody lost. If you don't like the word "Pride," then call it self-centered, shortsighted or ignorance.

Bryce got his cup of coffee (15 minutes) in the the NFL, playing for peanuts. An inferior RB, Trent Richardson, got $20,000,000 (fully guaranteed), a $13 million signing bonus, and a walk across the draft-day stage in NY. That was all Bryce's.

Someone above blamed Dooley. Really?

Someone said Bryce is a good man with a good young family. They'll all have to go to work.

Someone said I'm throwing stones at a guy when he's down. I'm just reporting.

I saw enough of this kid -- even when he ran out of bounds -- to know he was very special. He could have won a lot of games for UT even with a young OLine. Bray, Rodgers and Hunter created a lot of offense that could have been even better with Brown in the backfield. Just 1 more win a year and we never miss a bowl.

We all lost, it's a shame, it could have been avoided. I hope good things come to Bryce. But as of today, it must be observed that Tennessee was always here to support the young man to succeed at the highest level, and he shorted us.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
The real reason Bryce's father did not want him to play at UT anymore was because the incoming OL was freshmen and sophomores. He was afraid the kid would look bad on TV and his draft stock was slip. So he decided to sit him for 2 years.
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Link? Your posts read like they're being pulled from a dark and smelly place

WiseOlVol said:
Bryce got his cup of coffee (15 minutes) in the the NFL, playing for peanuts.
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The 3yr min is around $600k. I highly doubt you make enough to call that peanuts. In his first 3 years out of college he cleared about $1.5mil.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
The real reason Bryce's father did not want him to play at UT anymore was because the incoming OL was freshmen and sophomores. He was afraid the kid would look bad on TV and his draft stock was slip. So he decided to sit him for 2 years. This was an admission that the kid wasn't the #1 recruit in the country. And, it left UT with a bunch of 3* RBs. But, pi&&ing on UT was in season at the time, with the departure of Kiffin and his staff.

The correct and honest move would have been for the Browns to say, this University is where We committed, and we keep our commitments, and we have faith that things will work out. Instead, they chose to game the system, and everybody lost. If you don't like the word "Pride," then call it self-centered, shortsighted or ignorance.

Bryce got his cup of coffee (15 minutes) in the the NFL, playing for peanuts. An inferior RB, Trent Richardson, got $20,000,000 (fully guaranteed), a $13 million signing bonus, and a walk across the draft-day stage in NY. That was all Bryce's.

Someone above blamed Dooley. Really?

Someone said Bryce is a good man with a good young family. They'll all have to go to work.

Someone said I'm throwing stones at a guy when he's down. I'm just reporting.

I saw enough of this kid -- even when he ran out of bounds -- to know he was very special. He could have won a lot of games for UT even with a young OLine. Bray, Rodgers and Hunter created a lot of offense that could have been even better with Brown in the backfield. Just 1 more win a year and we never miss a bowl.

We all lost, it's a shame, it could have been avoided. I hope good things come to Bryce. But as of today, it must be observed that Tennessee was always here to support the young man to succeed at the highest level, and he shorted us.
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If that's the case then why didn't you start a thread about A.J. Johnson, Da'Rick Rogers, Janzen Jackson. ALL could have made $$$ at the next level. Every action has a consequence. It's a hard lesson for some, even harder for others. Like I said earlier hindsight 101.
 
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utvolpj said:
Link? Your posts read like they're being pulled from a dark and smelly place

Common knowledge.

The 3yr min is around $600k. I highly doubt you make enough to call that peanuts. In his first 3 years out of college he cleared about $1.5mil.
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I pay more than that in taxes.
 
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volcrazi said:
If that's the case then why didn't you start a thread about A.J. Johnson, Da'Rick Rogers, Janzen Jackson. ALL could have made $$$ at the next level. Every action has a consequence. It's a hard lesson for some, even harder for others. Like I said earlier hindsight 101.
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The 3 you mentioned didn't make a business decision to game the system. They all played and well for UT.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
The 3 you mentioned didn't make a business decision to game the system. They all played and well for UT.
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All players mentioned above including Brown made a "life decision" which in turn impacted each of their own financial future.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
The real reason Bryce's father did not want him to play at UT anymore was because the incoming OL was freshmen and sophomores. He was afraid the kid would look bad on TV and his draft stock was slip. So he decided to sit him for 2 years. This was an admission that the kid wasn't the #1 recruit in the country. And, it left UT with a bunch of 3* RBs. But, pi&&ing on UT was in season at the time, with the departure of Kiffin and his staff.

The correct and honest move would have been for the Browns to say, this University is where We committed, and we keep our commitments, and we have faith that things will work out. Instead, they chose to game the system, and everybody lost. If you don't like the word "Pride," then call it self-centered, shortsighted or ignorance.

Bryce got his cup of coffee (15 minutes) in the the NFL, playing for peanuts. An inferior RB, Trent Richardson, got $20,000,000 (fully guaranteed), a $13 million signing bonus, and a walk across the draft-day stage in NY. That was all Bryce's.

Someone above blamed Dooley. Really?

Someone said Bryce is a good man with a good young family. They'll all have to go to work.

Someone said I'm throwing stones at a guy when he's down. I'm just reporting.

I saw enough of this kid -- even when he ran out of bounds -- to know he was very special. He could have won a lot of games for UT even with a young OLine. Bray, Rodgers and Hunter created a lot of offense that could have been even better with Brown in the backfield. Just 1 more win a year and we never miss a bowl.

We all lost, it's a shame, it could have been avoided. I hope good things come to Bryce. But as of today, it must be observed that Tennessee was always here to support the young man to succeed at the highest level, and he shorted us.
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What you are doing is not reporting. You can stop telling yourself that you are "just reporting."
 
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WiseOlVol said:
The 3 you mentioned didn't make a business decision to game the system. They all played and well for UT.
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So humor me here. Say we had LSU RB Leonard Fournette who I'm sure we can all agree is easily a Top 5 pick in 2017 (can't go pro next year because he's a soph) .... maybe the #1 pick who knows. Would you fault him for sitting out next season to ensure he's healthy going into the 2017 draft when he's eligible? 2015 Top 5 picks made well over $20 Million per this draft. 2nd Rd guys $6 Million. Risk worth Reward. Just curious as to what you think since you talk about "business decision to game the system"
 
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