BTO’s Vanderbilt Postgame Report

#26
#26
Rebounding is a huge concern, bigger than any other to me. Shots will fall as long as you get good looks. Defense and rebounding are 100 percent effort based. The guys getting the minutes put forth max defensive effort but don't seem to be as sold as they need to be on rebounding. Pons could truly be a Rodman type if he would just focus his energy on rebounding. We don't even need a ton of offense from him. Boards, passing and defense are where his future lies both here and at the NBA. Too bad he's not 6'10.
 
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#27
#27
If we're gonna go small ball, we'd better get better at the three of shot as well as defend it better and more consistently.
 
#29
#29
orangemadam said:
true, but I was expecting an 8 man rotation. Anosike is just not producing like I thought he would. I was expecting either Anos. or Nkim to be the 8th.
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Yep. I was expecting an 8-man rotation and all 8 of those playing 20 or more minutes per game. The step up in competition has just proven to be too much for EJA to play that many minutes without hurting us on both ends. I expected 20 minutes, 6 points and 7 rebounds a game from him, and he just can't offer it, right now.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
Rebounding is a huge concern, bigger than any other to me. Shots will fall as long as you get good looks. Defense and rebounding are 100 percent effort based. The guys getting the minutes put forth max defensive effort but don't seem to be as sold as they need to be on rebounding. Pons could truly be a Rodman type if he would just focus his energy on rebounding. We don't even need a ton of offense from him. Boards, passing and defense are where his future lies both here and at the NBA. Too bad he's not 6'10.
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I agree Pons could easily be a 10 rebound per game guy. But, Rodman was special in how he could tell where the ball was coming off the rim and/or backboard, plus nobody was better than him at tipping the ball up when he couldn't get the board, keeping it alive until he could grab it. It's an innate ability/talent that not everyone has, which sets ups, me, talking about my Glory Days.

I was a beast rebounding, especially on the offensive glass, because I almost always knew where the ball was coming off the rim/backboard. My teammates used to say I would miss shots in the paint on purpose, so I could pad my rebound stats. The thing was, as soon as the ball left my hands, I knew whether I hit the shot or not and where to go to get the rebound. Like I said the really great rebounders have that feel, I don't think Pons has it, but he can make up for that with his athleticism, hops and using his ripped body for boxing out and positioning. Also, just the effort and will to go get the ball, more than your opponent, will add another couple of boards a game, imo. Plus, leaving his man to help and block shots sometimes puts him out of position for the board, but he is an elite shot blocker, so apparently Barnes can live with that, I know I can
 
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#33
#33
walkenvol said:
I for one was hoping we’d go constant full court defense considering our potential preseason depth but also recognized it would be contrary to anything we’d seen in the past. I also expected Anosike to provide 18-20 solid minutes a game which isn’t happening. Interesting how the season is unfolding compared to our expectations
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I think everyone expected Anosike to make a bigger impact.
 
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#35
#35
walkenvol said:
I for one was hoping we’d go constant full court defense considering our potential preseason depth but also recognized it would be contrary to anything we’d seen in the past. I also expected Anosike to provide 18-20 solid minutes a game which isn’t happening. Interesting how the season is unfolding compared to our expectations
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This. With the depth that this team has, I was hoping to see him use 10 and turn up the pressure for 40 minutes. But, it's starting to normalize at 7. Hope that works for a FF run.
 
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#36
#36
I think pons made a mistake coming back

All of a sudden he’s a older player that it’s easy to claim doesn’t have the potential to ever be a 3 pt shooter

Last year you could easily have made an argument he was going to do that in the nba. This year not so much

16% from 3 now and just an average free throw shooter

I hate it for him
 
#37
#37
The Dog said:
I agree Pons could easily be a 10 rebound per game guy. But, Rodman was special in how he could tell where the ball was coming off the rim and/or backboard, plus nobody was better than him at tipping the ball up when he couldn't get the board, keeping it alive until he could grab it. It's an innate ability/talent that not everyone has, which sets ups, me, talking about my Glory Days.

I was a beast rebounding, especially on the offensive glass, because I almost always knew where the ball was coming off the rim/backboard. My teammates used to say I would miss shots in the paint on purpose, so I could pad my rebound stats. The thing was, as soon as the ball left my hands, I knew whether I hit the shot or not and where to go to get the rebound. Like I said the really great rebounders have that feel, I don't think Pons has it, but he can make up for that with his athleticism, hops and using his ripped body for boxing out and positioning. Also, just the effort and will to go get the ball, more than your opponent, will add another couple of boards a game, imo. Plus, leaving his man to help and block shots sometimes puts him out of position for the board, but he is an elite shot blocker, so apparently Barnes can live with that, I know I can
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#38
#38
BruinVol said:
I think pons made a mistake coming back

All of a sudden he’s a older player that it’s easy to claim doesn’t have the potential to ever be a 3 pt shooter

Last year you could easily have made an argument he was going to do that in the nba. This year not so much

16% from 3 now and just an average free throw shooter

I hate it for him
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Agree to a point but he could just have a great breakout NCAA 3 or 4 games and put his name on everybody's lips.Ir happens. Hope the whole team gets that chemistry and gels by Tourney time.
 
#42
#42
BruinVol said:
I think pons made a mistake coming back

All of a sudden he’s a older player that it’s easy to claim doesn’t have the potential to ever be a 3 pt shooter

Last year you could easily have made an argument he was going to do that in the nba. This year not so much

16% from 3 now and just an average free throw shooter

I hate it for him
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I think he came back more because of COVID uncertainty than draft considerations. I do think better three point shooting would resolve most of his draft issues. Just stretching the floor in offense would be worth keeping him on the floor for his defense.
 
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#43
#43
BruinVol said:
I think pons made a mistake coming back

All of a sudden he’s a older player that it’s easy to claim doesn’t have the potential to ever be a 3 pt shooter

Last year you could easily have made an argument he was going to do that in the nba. This year not so much

16% from 3 now and just an average free throw shooter

I hate it for him
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My guess is that he was not projected to have been drafted in the 2 round NBA draft last yr. If that's the case then it really doesn't matter when he comes out. He'll have to fight and claw for a spot on an NBA roster anyway. Admittedly I don't follow the NBA much but I'm not sure that he projects as an NBA player
 
#44
#44
Sea Ray said:
My guess is that he was not projected to have been drafted in the 2 round NBA draft last yr. If that's the case then it really doesn't matter when he comes out. He'll have to fight and claw for a spot on an NBA roster anyway. Admittedly I don't follow the NBA much but I'm not sure that he projects as an NBA player
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Im no expert either but I think he was projected second round last year and came back hoping to get into the first round
 
#45
#45
PandamoniumReigns said:
I said it in another thread, but Pippen is going to be one of those players all other teams love to hate. Similar to Marshall Henderson at Ole Miss a while back.

He just exudes the punk player style.
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He played out of control a lot. If he gets a better grip on the mental parts, could be a force.
 
#46
#46
PandamoniumReigns said:
I said it in another thread, but Pippen is going to be one of those players all other teams love to hate. Similar to Marshall Henderson at Ole Miss a while back.

He just exudes the punk player style.
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I assume most of that comes from being Scotty Pippen’s son. Anytime he played ball he’s probably had a target on his back as the son of an NBA all-star, champ, and HOF who played with Jordan. Doesn’t help that he has the same name. I imagine everyone who plays against him wants a piece of him to see how they stack up. He’s probably a bit scrappy because of all that.

I’m just making assumptions though maybe he’s just a jerk.
 
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#47
#47
BruinVol said:
Keon was high on vandy and Bryce Drew in the recruiting process. Liked them over us for awhile
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He might have used to like them, but that appears to have changed. I have never seen him so animated and ticked off. Did you watch the game?
 
#48
#48
VOLED said:
He might have used to like them, but that appears to have changed. I have never seen him so animated and ticked off. Did you watch the game?
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He’s always played animated and ticked off. He got a lot of Technicals in HS and I was worried about that temper. He’s just getting more comfortable now
 
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#49
#49
BruinVol said:
He’s always played animated and ticked off. He got a lot of Technicals in HS and I was worried about that temper. He’s just getting more comfortable now
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He was jawing with Pippen Jr. quite a bit. Was fun to watch him guard him.
 
#50
#50
omghulkhands said:
He was jawing with Pippen Jr. quite a bit. Was fun to watch him guard him.
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Appeared to get under Pippen’s skin and Pippen was trying to force things when nothing was there which contributed to the turn overs and low shooting percentage
 
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