Butch Jones, the Vols, and the difference culture makes

[Volosaurus rex]

If you are so well versed in culture, you obviously must understand the concept of dialects.

Even if culture was not an accurate term for what they are doing according to our standard language, which I believe it is and that you're just being jack***, "a variety of a language used by the members of a group" perfectly describes the situation of coaches, corporations, pretty much everyone except for you, etc. using the word "culture" in this new way.

What you are describing is "professional jargon," not a linguistic dialect. Physicians, physicists, architects, football coaches and, yes, cultural anthropologists all employ different but discipline-specific forms of professional jargon.

 

[photovol]

Yes, we are going to be successful for years to come but we have to prevent bUTch from even interviewing for other job openings in the future. Michigan or Florida etc. etc.

Isn't it a bit early and premature to even suggest Butch leaving?

 

[MustafaRasta]

Nope. I was a Vol long before I became a cultural anthropologist. I am, however, a stickler when it comes to gross misuse of vocabulary specific to that discipline.

So I assume you get your panties in a wad whenever the color guys says "they are getting killed out there" and " this game is a battle"

Must be hard to watch a game.

 

[RiotVol]

Doug Schmittou. I completed my M.A. in Anthropology at UT in '96 and attended Indiana University for doctoral study.

Cool. One of Logan's students?

Shane Miller - I graduated in 2007, just finished my PhD at Arizona, and I just started teaching at Mississippi State.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

So I assume you get your panties in a wad whenever the color guys says "they are getting killed out there" and " this game is a battle"

Must be hard to watch a game.

No. Like most Tennessee fans, I only find it difficult to watch football games when we are losing badly. I must confess, however, that I don't care for reference to the "vertical" passing game or "vertical" routes. That would imply perpendicularity to the playing field, such as the flight path followed by a rocket or missile immediately after its launch.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

Cool. One of Logan's students?

Shane Miller - I graduated in 2007, just finished my PhD at Arizona, and I just started teaching at Mississippi State.

Yes. He was my major professor and thesis committee chair. Are you specializing in physical, cultural or archaeology?

 

[RiotVol]

Yes. He was my major professor and thesis committee chair. Are you specializing in physical, cultural or archaeology?

Archaeology.

 

[Slydell]

Have we not been a "work in progress" for 5-6 years. Ready for some wins on the field. Bring it, don't sing it.

 

[sarahliko]

Cool. One of Logan's students?

Shane Miller - I graduated in 2007, just finished my PhD at Arizona, and I just started teaching at Mississippi State.

Shane! We had some classes and field school together (Sarah Moore from Happy Valley). I finished up my Ph.D. at FSU a couple years ago. Been working for the Fl Dept of State here in Tallahassee since then. Congrats on the MS State job!

 

[KBVol]

Losing is a disease... ...as contagious as bubonic plague... ... attacking one... ... but infecting all.

-psychologist dude from The Natural imo

 

[daj2576]

‘tis a good article but, as a cultural anthropologist, the concept of “changing the culture” is one that i wish had never entered into the coaching vernacular. It is typically used to signify a fundamental change in attitude or mindset, often in a comparatively brief period of time, whereas concepts of culture advanced by anthropologists have far more expansive reference to the totality of knowledge collectively shared by members of a particular ethnic group or nation-state. Consider, for example, the following:

Sir edward tylor, an english anthropologist who is often considered to be the founder of cultural anthropology, described culture as “that complex whole which includes knowledge, belief, art, morals, law, custom, and any other capabilities and habits acquired by man as a member of society."

ecological anthropologists adhere to a more mechanistic model of culture, i.e. A tool which “comprises concrete, physical tools, but also knowledge, skills and forms of organization.” more specifically, this theoretical perspective perceives culture as “a part of the distinctive means by which a local population maintains itself in an ecosystem and by which a regional population maintains and coordinates its groups and distributes them over the available land."

symbolic anthropologists emphasize the cognitive aspects of culture more explicitly. Clifford geertz, for example, described culture as “an historically transmitted pattern of meanings embodied in symbols, a system of inherited conceptions expressed in symbolic forms by means of which men communicate, perpetuate, and develop their knowledge about and attitudes toward life." see culture - anthrobase - dictionary of anthropology: A searchable database of anthropological texts.

I realize that this information will be of no interest whatsoever to most of my fellow vol fans but, for the record, neither butch jones nor any other college football coach is engaged in “changing the culture.” i wholeheartedly agree that butch has done a superb job of changing the collective attitude or mindset of his players and, by all accounts, the boys in orange are truly taking his message to heart, but butch is not engaged in culture change.

Danger! A Ph.D. is loose in a football forum.

 

[thebjd]

-psychologist dude from The Natural imo

as contagious as polio.....

Great movie

 

[ImportedVoL]

I also know precisely what Butch means when he uses this term and, yes, he is using it in a manner that is consistent with similar contexts. However, neither maxims, corporate philosophy, or "organizational culture" constitute legitimate uses of the term "culture," regardless of what Webster includes as a tertiary definition. These forms of information are shared by far too small a subset of the population and they encompass far too small a range of cultural phenomena to be defined as "culture" or an exercise in "culture change."

You gentlemen are free to bash me all you want on this point, but it does not change the fact that this use of "culture change" is quite simply inaccurate, notwithstanding the fact that Butch is far from alone in adopting this phrase.

The English language is an ever changing animal, and how a word gets used in everyday life ends up determining its meaning.

When someone says..that guy is a badarse it doesn't really mean his arse is bad.

People who try to argue semantics have defeated themselves before their argument is even started. Because words are used to express points. And if the people listening get the point, then the word was used correctly.

 

[Hamptonvolfan]

Nope. I was a Vol long before I became a cultural anthropologist. I am, however, a stickler when it comes to gross misuse of vocabulary specific to that discipline.

I was with the US Air Force for 32 years as an Airman and a civilian employee but I don't get my panties in a wad when terms like bomb, missile, aerial attack, are used. :ermm:

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

I'd rather have a completely dysfunctional team with a lousy attitude that actually makes bowls and wins games against SEC opponents.

When does that actually start taking place?

Coach speak and shiny catch phrases only takes a team so far.

 

[RiotVol]

HEEEEYYYYY!!!!! Small world!!!

Shane! We had some classes and field school together (Sarah Moore from Happy Valley). I finished up my Ph.D. at FSU a couple years ago. Been working for the Fl Dept of State here in Tallahassee since then. Congrats on the MS State job!

 

[Sikerth]

I'd rather have a completely dysfunctional team with a lousy attitude that actually makes bowls and wins games against SEC opponents.

When does that actually start taking place?

Coach speak and shiny catch phrases only takes a team so far.

Oh, you mean like Kiffin's and Dooley's first year teams? Those both led us to such a great place. Let's ask for that all over again!! :bash::bash:

 

[ManningBerry#1]

-psychologist dude from The Natural imo

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