By Year 2

[njvols]

If you look at the guys that had major success in the SEC by year two over the last 20 years or so a few stand out.
-Saban reached ATL but lost
-Meyer won SEC & NC
-Chizik won SEC & NC
-Smart won the SEC but lost the NC.
Chizik is the outlier and got fired. Hopefully Heupel has success like Meyer, Kirby, and Saban.

There’s always outliers…good and bad, but this really shows that you should know what you’ve got pretty quick…and why looking back at our previous 3 coaches all of the signs were there…Auburn could be in trouble…TaM too for that matter. Threading the needle on a difference maker coach is so difficult.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

South Carolina and Mizzou can most definitely beat us. It happens to teams all the time year in year out. We went from never going to be relevant to can't be beat in a year and a half. Good lord!

Not happening unless Tennessee just completely falls apart.

 

[fossilfiction]

Can you tell if they will be successful after two years? You can normally tell if they are failures, but a success, sometimes. Kentucky with Stoops, UCLA with Kelly, Clemson with Dabo, and Tennessee with Majors are some of the hard-to-see successes in the first couple of years, but slow improvements.
Sometimes yes, most times I say no.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Man, we have had this conversation often enough on vn.com for it to be one of our theme songs.

You know what we get to do now? Give it a rest. Give it a loooooooong rest.

Because you know what we're not going to be in the market for, for a long time to come? That's right, a new head coach.

We got one, we don't need any other.

And we don't need to debate this stupid question back and forth yet again (hint: there is no right answer, only opinions).

The problem is CJH will be judge on his success or failure based on life after Hook leaves.

Why do you say problem? This is not a problem.

This is us being blessed, for years to come. Hendon Hooker is awesome. But he's not the pinnacle. He is simply Chapter 1. And this book has dozens of chapters.

Go Vols!

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Man, we have had this conversation often enough on vn.com for it to be one of our theme songs.

You know what we get to do now? Give it a rest. Give it a loooooooong rest.

Because you know what we're not going to be in the market for, for a long time to come? That's right, a new head coach.

We got one, we don't need any other.

And we don't need to debate this stupid question back and forth yet again.



Why do you say problem? This is not a problem. This is us being blessed, for years to come. Hendon Hooker is awesome. But he's not the pinnacle. He is simply Chapter 1. And this book has dozens of chapters.

Go Vols!

Give it a rest?

 

[LittleVol]

We beat Kentucky and UGA, we're in! Nobody else in the east can catch us, and we certainly won't get beat by Mizzou, South Carolina, or Vandy. We would own the tiebreaker over UGA if we slipped up once.

South Carolina beat Kentucky.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Jimbo Fisher won it all for FSU in 2013.
How's that working out for aTm?
Frost did well at UCF.
He's unemployed.

You never know how things will change. Deciding you've got a dynasty brewing in year 2 is premature.

 

[MAD]

We heard it said by hundreds of posters and some local and national media:

“You’ll know you got the right coach or not by Year 2.”

If you agree, did your mind get changed by CJH or were you always on board with this train of thought?

Now the season isn’t over by a long shot and it’s not a given we have a successful outcome (by whatever that standard is for you) but so far we’ve seen amazing coaching and execution.

Wait until he gets his own players, Heupel is living off of the talent Pruitt left.

 

[NO SIR EEE]

South Carolina beat Kentucky.

Without Levis in a fluke win. I ain't worried one bit about some damn Beamer ball.

 

[VolArmy74]

Year 2 leaps.

Saban didn't make one at MSU because they were gutted by probation and scholarship reductions when he arrived.

LSU was 4-7, then 3-8 in the 2 years before he got there, he won 10 games and the SEC Championship in Year 2.

Alabama he went from 6-6 to 12-2 in year 2 and hasn't looked back.

Urban Meyer took over a 2-9 Bowling Green team and was 9-3 in year 2.

Utah was 5-6 the year before he got there, 12-0 in year 2.

Florida went from 7-5 Zooks last year to 13-1 in year 2 with the BCS title.

Jim Tressell was 7-5 in year 1 at Ohio State, 14-0 in year 2.

Oklahoma was 7-5 in year one under Stoops after a long ride of bad teams, and 13-0 in year 2.

USC was 6-6 in year 1 under Pete Carroll, 11-2 and finished #4 in the nation in year 2.

Kirby went from 8-5 to 13-2 from year 1 to year 2.

Most of the coaches viewed as elite in the 2000s did this. Dabo is an exception, but they were 7-6 in the year he took over and went to 9-4 the next season.

 

[Dudleys87]

Man, we have had this conversation often enough on vn.com for it to be one of our theme songs.

You know what we get to do now? Give it a rest. Give it a loooooooong rest.

Because you know what we're not going to be in the market for, for a long time to come? That's right, a new head coach.

We got one, we don't need any other.

And we don't need to debate this stupid question back and forth yet again (hint: there is no right answer, only opinions).



Why do you say problem? This is not a problem.

This is us being blessed, for years to come. Hendon Hooker is awesome. But he's not the pinnacle. He is simply Chapter 1. And this book has dozens of chapters.

Go Vols!

Because the media will be looking for any and every excuse to say it was a fluke. Tennessee has a lot of talent at the position and I expect it to continue on the path it’s on.

 

[Southeastern VFL]

I think it really depends on what type of product that the incoming coach is going to try and put on the field. How much of a ceiling does that product have, How much more can you add to the system once you get the talent you say you need. If you look at what CJH has done and you look at it on a basic 5 year plan I think we will see in that 5 years exactly what we want to see. A Year and a half in he has done fixed and balanced the offense, His staff has fixed the run defense so with that being said what left to do simply fix our secondary and once it that has been done I think we will then see Tennessee become a consistence championship competing football team year in and year out.

 

[D-Vols]

If you look at the guys that had major success in the SEC by year two over the last 20 years or so a few stand out.
-Saban reached ATL but lost
-Meyer won SEC & NC
-Chizik won SEC & NC
-Smart won the SEC but lost the NC.
Chizik is the outlier and got fired. Hopefully Heupel has success like Meyer, Kirby, and Saban.

Yes, but which one of these coaches took over a roaring dumpster fire losing a massive transfer of assets? None
Coach may fall in the future, but I’m not thinking so and if the man is paid for his work I think he stays for awhile.