California drought

#27
#27
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Lol Fracking is the problem? It takes 1 gallon of water to grow 1 almond. There are about 1 million acres of almond trees in California. That's 1.1 trillion gallons. Lol at your 70 million gallons
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Ding Ding Ding. Agriculture absorbs 80% of the water supply, and the acreage of crops that are very water dependent (almonds, pistachios, and alfalfa to name a few) are only increasing. The recent legislation did little to curb water usage by big agribusiness.
 
#28
#28
If people are being fined for how their grass looks, why not get turf and it will look nice year-round? The turf football stadiums use now looks about as real as regular grass.
 
#29
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Lol Fracking is the problem? It takes 1 gallon of water to grow 1 almond. There are about 1 million acres of almond trees in California. That's 1.1 trillion gallons. Lol at your 70 million gallons
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I'm not arguing that fact. Sorry I didn't mention it...

However, it doesn't make my statement any less true.
 
#30
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VOLatile said:
Watering lawns is one of the single largest wastes of water in the country. It's so stupid. Who gives a flying F if your lawn is green or not. Couple that with fertilizer runoff wrecking havoc on freshwater ecosystems... Idiots and their stupid lawns.

And bottled water.

Desalinization will not help California. Where does the salt go? Back into the water? Nope, that'll kill the fish. Into the ground? Nope that'll contaminate aquifers and create land that is not farmable.

The rate at which water is used in the US and other countries is not sustainable in the least. Upgrading California's water facilities is a bandaid fix, at best.

They're going to have to learn to live and adapt with this now.
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on the desal topic there are plenty of options out there, that doesn't involve seawater. A couple companies have developed solar stills that can take any water and purify it through the same basic principal of evaporating the water. and as far as the salt itself goes there is an ever rising popularity of Sea Salt, seems like there is a buyer somewhere for that. perfect no. and i do agree with your overall argument, we are too wasteful.
 
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#32
Looks like we are saying the same thing, regarding the first article.

Regarding the second, I am still skeptical that the water loss due to leaky pipes is a game changer, but I accept that it is indeed a factor.
 
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VOLatile said:
Watering lawns is one of the single largest wastes of water in the country. It's so stupid. Who gives a flying F if your lawn is green or not. Couple that with fertilizer runoff wrecking havoc on freshwater ecosystems... Idiots and their stupid lawns.

Agreed.

And bottled water.

Desalinization will not help California. Where does the salt go? Back into the water? Nope, that'll kill the fish. Into the ground? Nope that'll contaminate aquifers and create land that is not farmable.

The rate at which water is used in the US and other countries is not sustainable in the least. Upgrading California's water facilities is a bandaid fix, at best.

They're going to have to learn to live and adapt with this now.
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Desalination is the long-term answer. The salt can be stored. The real problem is energy.

Some are waiting for workable fusion devices. Others for power companies to make plants that would produce power and desalination of sea water at the same time.
 
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#35
I think you guys are refusing to acknowledge the number one contributor to the problem which is a long term lack of rain. The others are definite contributors but a lack of rain is the number one cause.

I think we could all survive just fine without Almonds, Pistachios, and Alfalfa.
 
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#36
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I could be wrong but wasn't Southern California inhospitable during the gold rush age? These people flocked to a DESERT! What do they expect
 
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IMO it all boils down to overpopulation. To many people using water in California with more every day, an every growing demand for agricultural products, increased energy demands leading to more risky extraction methods by fracking. It's going to take some game changing technologies in multiple industries down the road to keep up with vastly increased demand, and if things keep trending how they are people are going to need to learn to conserve their resources.
 
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LouderVol said:
on the desal topic there are plenty of options out there, that doesn't involve seawater. A couple companies have developed solar stills that can take any water and purify it through the same basic principal of evaporating the water. and as far as the salt itself goes there is an ever rising popularity of Sea Salt, seems like there is a buyer somewhere for that. perfect no. and i do agree with your overall argument, we are too wasteful.
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Sea Salt may be popular, but it is not healthier than ionized table salt and there is already an abundance of it offered
 
#40
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PKT_VOL said:
Desalination is the long-term answer. The salt can be stored. The real problem is energy.

Some are waiting for workable fusion devices. Others for power companies to make plants that would produce power and desalination of sea water at the same time.
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Desalinization is a potential long-term answer, but the tech is nowhere near what it needs to be. It is not a solution to wasteful water use or lack of precipitation.
 
#42
#42
Damn Colorado River needs to step it up. There's half a state depending on it and it's just rolling along like normal. Sheesh, carve a damn canyon and you think you can just rest on your laurels.
 
#43
#43
Piss Monkey dropping the deep knowledge! :)

It's only a matter of time before those Californians drain the Colorado river as well.
 
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#45
#45
Can we give everything from Bakersfield south back to Mexico and let it be their problem?
 
#49
#49
A friend of mine that lives in California told me that there are restrictions but Californians aren't paying any attention to them. They're just using water daily like they always have and don't give a crap.
 
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Coug said:
A friend of mine that lives in California told me that there are restrictions but Californians aren't paying any attention to them. They're just using water daily like they always have and don't give a crap.
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I think people here would do the same in a similar situation.
 
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