California restricts full contact practice

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Jxn Vol said:
It may have been that way forever. But the sad thing is that who the heck does the government think they are controlling football practice. Maybe a coach has a bunch of pansies and he thinks they need to go full contact before a game. The government shouldn't be able to tell that coach how he should do his job. #don't tread on me.
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Someone doesn't understand how schools work
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It may have been that way forever. But the sad thing is that who the heck does the government think they are controlling football practice. Maybe a coach has a bunch of pansies and he thinks they need to go full contact before a game. The government shouldn't be able to tell that coach how he should do his job. #don't tread on me.
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Parody?
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
I'd be interested to know if many HS's have more than 2 days of contact anyway. Once games started, we only had two days of full contact to begin with. Monday's were shoulder pads and shorts, mostly working on kick coverage and conditioning then film. Tues-Wed were pad days and Thurs was helmet and shorts doing the game walk through. That was FL so I doubt we had a law like this 12 yrs ago but I could be wrong.
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Not uncommon...atleast back in the day. And GA HS football was no less competitive then, maybe more. I know our coach was borderline tyrant in Griffin. Same routine though. Monday's was for punishment if you lost, or light practice and conditioning if you won. Tue/Wed much more intense with contact. There was never a time Bull in the Ring wasn't offered at the end of each practice in case players had scores to settle amongst them. Thu was run through for the Fri game.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
It may have been that way forever. But the sad thing is that who the heck does the government think they are controlling football practice. Maybe a coach has a bunch of pansies and he thinks they need to go full contact before a game. The government shouldn't be able to tell that coach how he should do his job. #don't tread on me.
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State school systems fall under the jurisdaiction of state governement in all states. They are not encroaching on aynone's freedom. And...controlled contat does not make wimpy players. I promise, Jesse Tuggle could skip contact in practices his entire playing career back to pee wee league and still lay "The Hammer" on 98% of all comers.
 
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VolinMichigan said:
Well when the parents want to sue the coach and the schools into oblivion because little Johnny can't remember his name at age 15, then that becomes a problem for them. #udon'tunderstandwhylawsaremade
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How many 15 year old football players can't remember their name? Is this an epidemic that I'm unaware of?

It's fascinating how certain agendas and media attempt to socially engineer a culture.

I guess since all the "data" says the Earth is going to burn up because of CO2 we should believe it.

By the way it's been a nice 80 degrees all week here in W TN. #dontbeablindsheepthinkforyourselvesthegovernmentdoestknowwhatsbestforu
 
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I don't understand where this misguided notion that more full contact practices makes your players tougher.

Either a kid has the heart and wants to hit people and play hard, or he doesn't.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don't understand where this misguided notion that more full contact practices makes your players tougher.

Either a kid has the heart and wants to hit people and play hard, or he doesn't.
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I honestly don't know if more full contact makes you tougher. I would assume it would get you prepared to give a hit and take a hit. The more you do it the better you are at it theory.

What I have a problem is taking that decision out of the coaches hands. He knows what his guys need on any given week. I guess what I'm saying is, where do you draw the line? Are we looking at 2 hand touch in the future.

Some folks will never be happy. They screw it up for the rest of us.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I honestly don't know if more full contact makes you tougher. I would assume it would get you prepared to give a hit and take a hit. The more you do it the better you are at it theory.

What I have a problem is taking that decision out of the coaches hands. He knows what his guys need on any given week. I guess what I'm saying is, where do you draw the line? Are we looking at 2 hand touch in the future.

Some folks will never be happy. They screw it up for the rest of us.
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I don't see this as a slippery slope. California is actually falling in line with most states. NC does not allow any full contact practice until the first of August.

TN only allows 10 full contact practices before August. Most states have very similiar guidelines.

And most teams only go live on Tuesday and Wednesday anyway. You watch film and do a walk throug Monday, and then walk through and special teams Thursday.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I don't see this as a slippery slope. California is actually falling in line with most states. NC does not allow any full contact practice until the first of August.

TN only allows 10 full contact practices before August. Most states have very similiar guidelines.

And most teams only go live on Tuesday and Wednesday anyway. You watch film and do a walk throug Monday, and then walk through and special teams Thursday.
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Again, not a fan of taking it out of the coach's hand. Just not a big fan of government overreach. I am a fan of keeping these decisions local.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I honestly don't know if more full contact makes you tougher. I would assume it would get you prepared to give a hit and take a hit. The more you do it the better you are at it theory.

What I have a problem is taking that decision out of the coaches hands. He knows what his guys need on any given week. I guess what I'm saying is, where do you draw the line? Are we looking at 2 hand touch in the future.

Some folks will never be happy. They screw it up for the rest of us.
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I wonder, historically, how many coaches have been concerned with what is best for the players? Or, their current or future health?
 
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Slydell said:
I wonder, historically, how many coaches have been concerned with what is best for the players? Or, their current or future health?
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I would say most do. When you keep the decisions at the local level the coach has to deal with parents, team physicians, and trainers when making decisions on player health. Most coaches are father figures and mentors to these kids. They care.

If he is reckless he will get dealt with accordingly in most cases. I guarantee the coach, parents, trainers, etc care a lot more about player health than an elected official hundreds of miles away.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
I would say most do. When you keep the decisions at the local level the coach has to deal with parents, team physicians, and trainers when making decisions on player health. Most coaches are father figures and mentors to these kids. They care.

If he is reckless he will get dealt with accordingly in most cases. I guarantee the coach, parents, trainers, etc care a lot more about player health than an elected official hundreds of miles away.
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I'll have to disagree on that. I think the coaches at that level are only thinking about wins and keeping their jobs. Their attitudes might be changing now with all that's coming out regarding injuries to players. I played small ball and the coaches didn't have any concern if you passed out, puke your guts out or thought you were too hurt to make the next play.
 
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Slydell said:
I'll have to disagree on that. I think the coaches at that level are only thinking about wins and keeping their jobs. Their attitudes might be changing now with all that's coming out regarding injuries to players. I played small ball and the coaches didn't have any concern if you passed out, puke your guts out or thought you were too hurt to make the next play.
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Sorry for your experience. I have not had that happen. I played for two small programs and work alongside many of the docs that cover these programs on the west side of the state. These guys take player health very seriously.

The way these kids are now their approach has to be different. If they treat them like crap they won't play. IMO the Junction Boys days are a thing of the past. I agree recklessness has no place in the game, but again the coach knows what his team needs.

BTW thanks for being level headed with your responses. A lot on here resort to being a turd if someone has a differing opinion.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Sorry for your experience. I have not had that happen. I played for two small programs and work alongside many of the docs that cover these programs on the west side of the state. These guys take player health very seriously.

The way these kids are now their approach has to be different. If they treat them like crap they won't play. IMO the Junction Boys days are a thing of the past. I agree recklessness has no place in the game, but again the coach knows what his team needs.

BTW thanks for being level headed with your responses. A lot on here resort to being a turd if someone has a differing opinion.
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Yeah, it happens. I may be guilty of it sometimes. Anyway, there has to be some higher power to mandate how this is regulated throughout each state. Hence, the state governmental oversight.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
How many 15 year old football players can't remember their name? Is this an epidemic that I'm unaware of?

It's fascinating how certain agendas and media attempt to socially engineer a culture.

I guess since all the "data" says the Earth is going to burn up because of CO2 we should believe it.

By the way it's been a nice 80 degrees all week here in W TN. #dontbeablindsheepthinkforyourselvesthegovernmentdoestknowwhatsbestforu
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Oh? There was moderate weather in west TN this week? Well close the books on the debate then.

#youdontunderstandthedifferencebetweenvclimateandweather
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Oh? There was moderate weather in west TN this week? Well close the books on the debate then.

#youdontunderstandthedifferencebetweenvclimateandweather
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Hey Mr. Gore we have been on a cool down for 30 years. #youneed to learntospellitseithernoteather
 
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Vol8188 said:
And for those who do, it has nothing to do with how many contact practices they were apart of
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True. But a few extra full pad practices may help that marginal high school player get just a little better. Maybe learn how to take a hit, give a hit, work on his tackling technique.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Hey Mr. Gore we have been on a cool down for 30 years. #youneed to learntospellitseithernoteather
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And I'm supposed to trust someone who cant read hashtags?

#youneedtolearntoreaditsaidWEATHER

However. if you wanted to note typos there was a V in there that shouldn't have been.
 
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