Cam Newton

#28
#28
Bumi said:
Is Trey Burton one of the best QB's in college football history?
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Don't twist what you said.

Burton is not in the same league as Tebow, or even Newton from what I've seen, as a passer.

This thread is not about Trey Burton.
 
#29
#29
Lawrence Wright said:
And some people are so hard-up for decent QB play they'll slurp the so-called next best thing after only 4 weeks.
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And some people understand football, and others don't.


Let me guess, you're under the impression that Tebow would've had 57 career rushing TD's playing in a system like Bama's?
 
#31
#31
Lawrence Wright said:
Don't twist what you said.

Burton is not in the same league as Tebow, or even Newton from what I've seen, as a passer.

This thread is not about Trey Burton.
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I'm not twisting anything. I'm merely proving a point. Tebow's numbers were severely inflated by Meyer's system; Thus, replicating his numbers with a QB who possesses a similar skill set wouldn't be out of the question.
 
#32
#32
Bumi said:
And some people understand football, and others don't.

Let me guess, you're under the impression that Tebow would've had 57 career rushing TD's playing in a system like Bama's?
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Why do you keep changing the argument?

This isn't about Bama's system, or Trey Burton.

These were your words....
If Cam ever got the opportunity to start at Florida, he he would've put up similar numbers to Tebow.
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Based on what you said, I disagree 100%.
 
#33
#33
If you think that Chaney or Dooley for that matter, would scrap the offense just to let Cam do his own thing, your SORELY mistaken and extremely naive. Cam Newton is flourishing in a system that is meant for HIM. The system typically makes the QB, not the other way around.
 
#34
#34
Bumi said:
I'm not twisting anything. I'm merely proving a point. Tebow's numbers were severely inflated by Meyer's system; Thus, replicating his numbers with a QB who possesses a similar skill set wouldn't be out of the question.
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It's not a given either.
 
#35
#35
Lawrence Wright said:
Why do you keep changing the argument?

This isn't about Bama's system, or Trey Burton.

These were your words....


Based on what you said, I disagree 100%.
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It isn't me changing the argument, it's your inability to keep up.

You're right, it isn't about Bama's system, it's about Florida's. In Florida's system, Newton would thrive, more so than he is even in Auburn's system, and he's lighting up the NCAA playing for the Tigers.

Florida's system allows for freshman QB's with underdeveloped arms to sparingly enter the game and rack up 6 TD's on minimal touches. Florida's system allows for QB's with average scrambling abilities to rush for 57 career TD's. In Florida's system, based solely on what it's done for QB's with lesser running ability, Cam Newton would thrive, and likely put up similar numbers to Tebow. Obviously, as Trey Burton showed us, it isn't hard.
 
#36
#36
Bumi said:
It isn't me changing the argument, it's your inability to keep up.

You're right, it isn't about Bama's system, it's about Florida's. In Florida's system, Newton would thrive, more so than he is even in Auburn's system, and he's lighting up the NCAA playing for the Tigers.

Florida's system allows for freshman QB's with underdeveloped arms to sparingly enter the game and rack up 6 TD's on minimal touches. Florida's system allows for QB's with average scrambling abilities to rush for 57 career TD's. In Florida's system, based solely on what it's done for QB's with lesser running ability, Cam Newton would thrive, and likely put up similar numbers to Tebow. Obviously, as Trey Burton showed us, it isn't hard.
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You have a wonderful argument, if you want to limit it to rushing TDs in the red zone, while ignoring stats like passing TDs, passing efficiency and total offense.

Neither Trey Burton nor Can Newton will approach Tebow's numbers in the passing game.
 
#41
#41
Lawrence Wright said:
You have a wonderful argument, if you want to limit it to rushing TDs in the red zone, while ignoring stats like passing TDs, passing efficiency and total offense.

Neither Trey Burton nor Can Newton will approach Tebow's numbers in the passing game.
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Graham Harrell and Colt Brennan had pretty stellar passing statistics....

Translation: You and I both know Tebow has never been a great passer. Not only did our offense cater to both his passing and running skills, but he played with 6 receivers(WR's and TE's) who would eventually play in the NFL.

Trey Burton will likely never start for this team.
Considering Tim Tebow's passing statistics were average at best last season(Without two first day draft picks), assuming Cam Newton could replicate similar numbers while being surrounded by similar talent isn't extremely far fetched.
 
#42
#42
Lawrence Wright said:
Because after only 4 games I don't think he's better than Pryor.

I reserve the right to be completely wrong, but that's just my opinion.

Satisfied now?
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So having less experience than Pryor makes him an inferior player, or as you put it, a poor mans version?
 
#43
#43
Bumi said:
So having less experience than Pryor makes him an inferior player, or as you put it, a poor mans version?
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At this point in their respective careers, yes.

If you give me the choice of Newton or Pryor to QB my team in the BCS title game, I'll take Pryor. They are very similar players, but I think Pryor is better.

Inferior is too strong a word. The gap between the two players isn't that great, regardless of who you think is better.
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#44
#44
This is really weird, gators having a family argument on a Tennessee board in a thread about an Auburn qb. :blink:
 
#45
#45
It is funny that one is realistic about Tebow and the other still wishes Tebow tucked him in at night.
 
#47
#47
here it is plain and simple

UF NEEDS a dual threat to run their offense JB is prostyle built for a texas or OU type offense

newton is so perfect for ours its blindingly obvious we would be better with him

but lawrence i guess doesnt agree or dont want to idk
 
#48
#48
BIG BOI 23 said:
here it is plain and simple

UF NEEDS a dual threat to run their offense JB is prostyle built for a texas or OU type offense

newton is so perfect for ours its blindingly obvious we would be better with him

but lawrence i guess doesnt agree or dont want to idk
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So, he's running a spread/no huddle type offense, in which there a plenty of called and no called runs for him, yet he is perfect for a pro-style offense?? Interesting logic.
 
#50
#50
BIG BOI 23 said:
im talkin bout the gator offense if he stayed and didnt get in trouble
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Oh, HAHAHAH!! I completely missed your favorite teams. Sorry, used to seeing the whole gator fan emblem under other fans names. Your right, he's perfect for the Gator offense. :good!:
 
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