Can the skill position talent offset the young lines?

#51
#51
I do think our running qb was not allowed to keep the ball on some of his read give plays. We couldn't afford him to get hurt with all the other qbs that were down. Countless times he could have pulled the ball and gained decent yardage. I imagine the play was called with a give predetermined. I think we will unleash the beast a little more this season. Go VOLS!
 
#53
#53
Yes and no. Yes in short yardage situation the 2nd and 4's and third and 3's or 4's. Reason being we like to do a lot of swing or wheel or flat routes to take away from the pressure inside. But those real long downs no the 2 and 8's to 10's or the third and 8's or 10's. That will be the time that communication and technique will be greatly needed. That's put up or shut up time. And the swing routes or wheel routes totally depends on the running game so.... We shall see.
 
#54
#54
Aerie Vol said:
True, but in a strange way in this context, you're actually arguing for the "line doesn't matter" side. It was widely stated that the Broncos had one of the best O-lines in the league. They got out-schemed and out-hearted by an inferior opponent who wanted it more.

I hope to see our "suspect" lines vastly outperform their highly touted predecessors with heart, determination, and preparation.

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They got their ass kicked. They were soft compared to Seahawks. To say inferior about a team that DOMINATED from the word go is just wrong.. I was pulling for the broncos, but the Seahawks pushed them around the whole game. Got to give them props..
 
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DD4ME said:
If we were only building up one area of the team I could see the optimism. Truly. What I see however is new guys (or guys with few starts) across the board, even in the skill positions. For example Worley hasn't played since October of last year. When he was playing they weren't all great.

Maggit is another good example of where we are as a team. He last played a game 11/2012. On paper he's a huge strength for this team but there are still question marks. Despite all his talent he has 1 years worth of rust plus a position change to get under his belt. He likely will but there are less talented guys needing to step up big in other areas for this all to work. The idea all of them will early is unlikely.

I could see this team being pretty good by the end of the season assuming they are resilient and hungry to win but I see the early part of the season being riddled with some big bumps in the road.
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The caveat to this is the one thing I cling to for hope concerning the ability of this staff to actually coach this program to wins.

Jones is a system and execution coach and especially on O. For that type of coach, experience matters less than having guys who with absolute consistency and accuracy perform their assignments. Experience obviously enhances that but inexperience does not prevent it.

If an OL that has now been coached up in Jones' system for two years can consistently perform their assignments and the skill players can improve and do likewise then the O is going to improve pretty significantly.


The D comes down to the DL where they are operating under a completely different personnel philosophy. They went from real big and pretty slow to relatively small but much faster. I honestly don't know how we can project that. I think the back 7 will improve though.
 
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sjt18 said:
The caveat to this is the one thing I cling to for hope concerning the ability of this staff to actually coach this program to wins.
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It's called Winner vs Loser in the coaching ranks. Coach Jones came to Tennessee with a 50-27 coaching record vs. 17-20 for Coach Dooley. Winners can win regardless of where they coach! That's just the way it is!
 
#57
#57
So if the o line was/is so good why didn't they get more time last year? Sorry, some of these guys just aren't sec o linemen no matter how many years of coaching they get. But I'm sure if they play poorly people will be all about blaming the coaching staff.
 
#58
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sjt18 said:
If an OL that has now been coached up in Jones' system for two years can consistently perform their assignments and the skill players can improve and do likewise then the O is going to improve pretty significantly.
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The boy problem with this is that our starters at OT will likely both be in their first year in the system. I think we'll be fine in the interior as long as we stay relatively healthy though.
 
#59
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SeniorDrill said:
Here is an excellent topic which can have a lot of different takes! We have a new offensive and defensive line that could make us very good if they are just average. However, when you look at the skilled positions on both offense and defense, we are loaded! Take the quarterbacks, the receivers, the linebackers, and the defensive backs and we don't look bad at all. This is not even considering the 32 newcomers adding to the strength. The kickers we know nothing much about how they will perform since they will be new also. Of course, that is a key but what if they are just average? Throw in the fact that we now have IMO one of the best coaching staffs in the country as an offset. They say hope springs eternal but if it all comes together this might be the turnaround year! Back to the basic question, can the skilled positions and coaching offset the young lines?
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I realize this is the UT board and, thus, fans are going to be biased. Average offensive and defensive lines make skill players better or worse, depending on how they perform. UT has a possible perfect storm coming up with the '14 schedule. If Bama had your schedule, I'd have them losing two games. I think UT will win 6, and fans should be happy with that. Stranger things have happened, but you don't win with youth and inexperience in the SEC. There are too many good coaches out there who will study film and find weaknesses and pounce on them. If the Vols can build on this season, I think CBJ's future can be bright. But it'll be '16 before you can think about contending for a division, IMHO :hi:.
 
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bigdaddy said:
So if the o line was/is so good why didn't they get more time last year? Sorry, some of these guys just aren't sec o linemen no matter how many years of coaching they get. But I'm sure if they play poorly people will be all about blaming the coaching staff.
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You don't normally replace an offensive line going to the NFL. They need full time reps to improve their draft status. Surely you know that, don't you? It is part of the pact between players and coaches.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I realize this is the UT board and, thus, fans are going to be biased. Average offensive and defensive lines make skill players better or worse, depending on how they perform. UT has a possible perfect storm coming up with the '14 schedule. If Bama had your schedule, I'd have them losing two games. I think UT will win 6, and fans should be happy with that. Stranger things have happened, but you don't win with youth and inexperience in the SEC. There are too many good coaches out there who will study film and find weaknesses and pounce on them. If the Vols can build on this season, I think CBJ's future can be bright. But it'll be '16 before you can think about contending for a division, IMHO :hi:.
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Mr. Bulldog Fan, I am afraid your Dogs will be in for a rude awakening on 9-27 as Coach Jones and crew have two weeks to prepare for them after the visit to Oklahoma. That game we lost last year will be strong on our minds! That will be the 7th win which no one expects IMHO!
 
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