Can we win 2 more ?

#151
#151
orangemadam said:
I just feel the Cats are beginning to jell, getting better defensively from what I have seen in the
past week and Bama is extremely hard to beat at their house. Both are offensive juggernauts
and not weak in the post. Even with out outstanding defense, it will be hard to hold either
team under 80 and I think it will be difficult to match their offense.

I expect both games to be close, somewhere in the 86-82 (flip the coin for the winner)
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Better defensively? Really?
 
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#155
kckempf said:
They had a stretch, including the game at Auburn where they allowed 59, where they rated one of the better defensive teams. Over the course of the season they are not good defensively, but they can apparently turn it on and play good defense if they buy in.
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I didn't get to watch the AU-UK game, but when a team plays defense as consistently bad as UK, is it fair to wonder from afar how much their defensive effort actually contributed to the outcome as opposed to AU just having an extremely poor shooting effort?

Auburn shot 30.9% and 18.2% from 3. Without seeing the game, I can't interpret the quality of those shots and how much UK's defense influenced poor and contested shots as opposed to Auburn just missing open looks, so this is a genuine question for someone who watched the game.

It's just a little far-fetched (though certainly not impossible) to believe UK can just turn it on and off to give up 85 points 8 times in 16 games, and then also hold the KenPom #14 offense to a season-low shooting % and near season-low in points purely based on defensive effort.
 
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#156
VolsSportsFan said:
You show me where I said that.

And genius you just said this:


LSU was 2 games ago.....so no, they have NOT gelled the last 3-4 games since they lost on the road to a meh LSU team. But your attempt to deflect from that fact by creating a strawman that I didn't even say and attacking it is noted.
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They just won at Miss St where we lost. So yes, they have gelled.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I didn't get to watch the AU-UK game, but when a team plays defense as consistently bad as UK, is it fair to wonder from afar how much their defensive effort actually contributed to the outcome as opposed to AU just having an extremely poor shooting effort?

Auburn shot 30.9% and 18.2% from 3. Without seeing the game, I can't interpret the quality of those shots and how much UK's defense influenced poor and contested shots as opposed to Auburn just missing open looks, so this is a genuine question for someone who watched the game.

It's just a little far-fetched (though certainly not impossible) to believe UK can just turn it on and off to give up 85 points 8 times in 16 games, and then also hold the KenPom #14 offense to a season-low shooting % and near season-low in points purely based on defensive effort.
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I watched it. The flexing Pearls couldn’t throw it in the ocean and then lost motivation once the kitties pulled away. It’s college basketball and sometimes the shots don’t fall for every team and every team endured long scoring droughts.

Listening to our football players being interviewed and a repeated phrase is “film doesn’t lie - you are what the film shows”. The Kitties are what the film shows which is a collection of the elite freshmen AAU players from last year with a tall Croatian and an impressive senior wing. These AAU types aren’t taught the type of defensive skills to defend in the SEC against mature 22 year old players. They do have elite scoring ability and that’s how they win or lose. Defend them hard and unless the officials bail them out then they are very beatable if our good shots are falling.
 
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#160
Franklin_Vol09 said:
They just won at Miss St where we lost. So yes, they have gelled.
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So just going to ignore a week ago they lost to a meh LSU team? And if MSU doesn't blow that game last night, I'm going to guess you wouldn't have been anywhere near this thread. I can imagine you sweating all game.

Also, hate to point out the obvious....but if you're going to start pulling out game results as "proof", then tell me what happened on Feb 3? Who did UK lose to at home that day? And before you jump back into mental gymnastics mode and tell me you're talking about them "gelling now"(while ignoring they lost last week), you're using the MSU game as proof....a game we lost almost 2 months ago.
 
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#161
VolFreakJosh said:
And we won at Rupp where Mississippi St lost.

See how that works?
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No. It doesn’t work like that. Because I never said UK is a better team than us. I said they would be more difficult because they are playing better as a team…..something that almost noone denies
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
So just going to ignore a week ago they lost to a meh LSU team? And if MSU doesn't blow that game last night, I'm going to guess you wouldn't have been anywhere near this thread. I can imagine you sweating all game.

Also, hate to point out the obvious....but if you're going to start pulling out game results as "proof", then tell me what happened on Feb 3? Who did UK lose to at home that day? And before you jump back into mental gymnastics mode and tell me you're talking about them "gelling now"(while ignoring they lost last week), you're using the MSU game as proof....a game we lost almost 2 months ago.
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I’m assuming you are a little slow. You are making an argument that UT is better than UK in which no one disputes. I’m making the argument that UK is much better now. If you can’t see that, then you have zero clue at all and this discussion is pointless
 
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Franklin_Vol09 said:
I’m assuming you are a little slow. You are making an argument that UT is better than UK in which no one disputes. I’m making the argument that UK is much better now. If you can’t see that, then you have zero clue at all and this discussion is pointless
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Actualy that's not the argument you were making, you specifically said "gelled the last 3-4 games' seemingly forgetting they dropped a game at LSU last week and you're too proud to admit it. Unless you got some weird definition of "gelled" that lets you just ignore an entire game because it doesn't fit your narrative.

And I'm not assuming you're slow, I know you are because you literally just tried to use the genius logic of "They beat MSU we didn't derp derp derp" but then backtrack when it's pointed out by YOUR OWN tactic how it falls apart.

Plus everyone can see you're just itching for us to lose so you can tell us how right you are.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Actualy that's not the argument you were making, you specifically said "gelled the last 3-4 games' seemingly forgetting they dropped a game at LSU last week and you're too proud to admit it. Unless you got some weird definition of "gelled" that lets you just ignore an entire game because it doesn't fit your narrative.

And I'm not assuming you're slow, I know you are because you literally just tried to use the genius logic of "They beat MSU we didn't derp derp derp" but then backtrack when it's pointed out by YOUR OWN tactic how it falls apart.

Plus everyone can see you're just itching for us to lose so you can tell us how right you are.
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So now you are making an argument that a team that is “gelled” and playing much better….now can’t be gelled since they dropped a game.

I guess UCONN sucks now since they dropped a recent one.

UK has won 3/4 since Auburn with an impressive win against 2 top 25 teams.

They are much better than when we played them at Rupp earlier this season. They will be much more difficult the last game of the season. I’m hoping for a blowout but I’m willing to bet that the line is closer to 6
 
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#170
Franklin_Vol09 said:
So now you are making an argument that a team that is “gelled” and playing much better….now can’t be gelled since they dropped a game.

I guess UCONN sucks now since they dropped a recent one.

UK has won 3/4 since Auburn with an impressive win against 2 top 25 teams.

They are much better than when we played them at Rupp earlier this season. They will be much more difficult the last game of the season. I’m hoping for a blowout but I’m willing to bet that the line is closer to 6
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Lol, you keep moving those goalposts buddy. I think you're the one that has clearly proven you don't know what "gelled" means.
 
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#171
VolsSportsFan said:
Lol, you keep moving those goalposts buddy. I think you're the one that has clearly proven you don't know what "gelled" means.
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Dude you aren’t even in the same stadium with your argument. UK is clearly playing better as a team. If you can see that, then that’s on you. Good luck in your search to argue with people.
 
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