Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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Vol8188 said:
You've spent the last 30 minutes defending the concept of freezing accounts and have even went as far as to compare it to donating to ISIS.

You can't hide behind that lie of only the owners and protestors. You heard the Justice Minister directly state they would go after donors.
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I posted multiple links earlier today that said that exact thing.
 
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luthervol said:
Not at all. You may not recognize it, but it's called consistency.
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You would have supported Trump if he went after the bank accounts of individuals donating to BLM during the Seattle riots? What about Rose City Antifa?

It's false consistency. You're making a false claim now that you would have never made at the time.
 
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luthervol said:
I posted multiple links earlier today that said that exact thing.
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You're dancing and wasting time (your typical style). Lets get to the overall point:

If they were to arrest and/or shut down the bank accounts of donors you would be okay with that?
 
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luthervol said:
I don't think donors should have there accounts frozen. They are claiming that they are not doing that. If they are, I disagree with the action - especially if they were not forewarned.

If we support the Ukraine, what should be done with known donors to Russia?
In 2002, what should have been done with known donors to ISIS?

Anything?
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Did Luther seriously just compare one of the most peaceful and effective protests ever to ISIS? You guys are wasting your time with this argument.
 
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volfanhill said:
No you aren't at all. The fact you are fine with punishment without trial makes you an especially scary individual. One who should be shunned by reasonable people. Heck I think even BLM would say you are damn nuts for it.
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That's nuts. Is being forcefully arrested and put in jail punishment?
 
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Vol8188 said:
Jesus Christ. What was the point of bringing up ISIS donors if not to compare how donors to both should be treated?
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I was trying to get answers to a couple of simple questions:
"Is it ever okay for a government to freeze the assets of a citizen?"
"Is it ever okay for a government to arrest a citizen for donating to a cause?"
 
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Orange_Crush said:
News stories were reporting it. Liberal mayors were issuing stand-down orders as I recall.
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And the damage caused by the rioters went on right in front of the cops. I am sure it bothered them to have to stand down.

But at the time anything the cops did was labeled as dangerous and racist. Now anything the cops do is labeled necessary.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Jesus Christ. What was the point of bringing up ISIS donors if not to compare how donors to both should be treated?
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Luther argues on a scale with the logic that "if it's OK to do it *here*, why not *here*?" He says that he's "just trying to create a baseline". He doesn't realize the fallacy of the argument tactic since it's the same tactic that would normalize pedophilia by just placing it somewhere on the scale of sexual activity.

And he apparently doesn't realize that placing donors to protestors on the same scale as donating to ISIS, he was comparing the donors to ISIS-supporter and the protestors to ISIS.
 
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luthervol said:
I was trying to get answers to a couple of simple questions:
"Is it ever okay for a government to freeze the assets of a citizen?"
"Is it ever okay for a government to arrest a citizen for donating to a cause?"
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You could have just asked those questions without putting the protestors on the same comparative scale as terrorists while claiming you did so to create a baseline. You chose ISIS for a reason.
 
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luthervol said:
I was trying to get answers to a couple of simple questions:
"Is it ever okay for a government to freeze the assets of a citizen?"
"Is it ever okay for a government to arrest a citizen for donating to a cause?"
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Simple answers.

Absent a conviction, no it’s never ok.
Yes, providing material/financial support to recognized terrorist organizations and foreign enemies is a crime.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You could have just asked those questions without putting the protestors on the same comparative scale as terrorists while claiming you did so to create a baseline. You chose ISIS for a reason.
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I did, because a whole lot of you would answer no to the general question but yes when applied directly to ISIS; which wouldn't be necessary if everyone practiced a little intellectual consistency.
I was actually trying to skip a step.
 
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