Canada's Truck Convoy to Protest Mandate

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luthervol said:
What an asinine take. My comment was that anyone who believes the tweet (without additional confirmation) is a gullible fool. Especially considering the guy has refused to talk and gone into hiding. No one has provided anything that substantiates the truthfulness of his tweet.
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Given that the government has gone to unprecedented extremes to ruin people for political dissent would you consider it unreasonable for someone critical of the regime to go into hiding? Perhaps he's not even in hiding, perhaps his accounts have been shut down.... They've threatened to do as much.
 
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luthervol said:
How convenient.............

“Given the amount of hate directed at her following my tweet and the fact that other freedom convoy donors have been threatened, fired from their jobs or otherwise harassed by the media and/or opponents of the freedom convoy, I decided I would not do any media on this story or reveal any more details about Briane and her personal situation.”
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I find it even more convenient you didn't bold the rest of that quote. Not convenient at all given the harassment by government.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm not dishonest (complete misunderstanding on your part) and my tap dancing is moderate at best.

You guys just have a hard time breaking out of your black or white views and seeing gray. Often times I have to take a circuitous route in getting you there.
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You are not a rational person. When you break things down it’s to try and convince yourself the absurdity of the crap you say while being oblivious to reality.
 
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utvolpj said:
If they're innocent according to the law then how does the law get to treat them as a guilty person? There is no guilt under the law until convicted. That's fundamental
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Not in Luther's world. If they're on the right they're guilt of something, according to him. He believes those on the left can do anything they want regardless with no consequences.
 
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luthervol said:
We agree. No roads blocked for more than an hour.......perfect solution.
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This is false, easily dismissed, roads across this country were shut down for weeks, months, even a year or more. Those responsible for organizing those peaceful protests were not threatened or even arrested, in some cases the US president reached out to them to listen.
 
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luthervol said:
no need to wait.
Trump was more into cancelling through social media and right wing propaganda outlets.
but..........
I was referring to the stupid name calling and demonizing of the other side.....intentional divisiveness. Trumpism 101
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Rhetoric is one thing, what we are seeing in Canada isn't just rhetoric.
 
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85SugarVol said:
So if the government gives me fair warning about donating to GiveSendGo to support striking US farmers - then the can freeze my assets?

Sounds like a wonderful place to live.
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Only if they have officially labeled the farmers a terrorist organization and made it known that donating to the group would result in your assets being frozen. Which we all have to agree is a little far fetched.
 
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hog88 said:
He would be up in arms if Trudeau was freezing accounts of donors to liberal organizations.
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I do not believe he is freezing accounts of donors, and to the extent he is, if he is, I disagree and say he is wrong.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You didn't answer the question, Mr. Bojangles.



Youi said that you do not believe they should at this point.


I'm just curious at what point you believe they should be.
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At the point where the government officially labels them as a terrorist organization and warns the public that their assets will be frozen if they donate to them.
 
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KB5252 said:
This is false, easily dismissed, roads across this country were shut down for weeks, months, even a year or more. Those responsible for organizing those peaceful protests were not threatened or even arrested, in some cases the US president reached out to them to listen.
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What roads were shut down for weeks, months, even a year or more?
 
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luthervol said:
Only if they have officially labeled the farmers a terrorist organization and made it known that donating to the group would result in your assets being frozen. Which we all have to agree is a little far fetched.
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Yes. I agree, a little far fetched.

Was just looking to use our farmers example from the other day.

2 years ago when I (yes, me) was yelling at people who were bucking 2 weeks to stop the spread - did anyone imagine us getting to the point where Canada would institute martial law?

I believe that would have been seen as pretty far fetched by most observers at the time.
 
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luthervol said:
What roads were shut down for weeks, months, even a year or more?
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Roads within the CHOP area. George Floyd square are two that I know of off the top of my head. "George Floyd Square" was shut down for over a year after barriers were set up by protesters. CHOP areas were there for months.

The protest organizers weren't arrested for protesting, they weren't labeled domestic terrorists by the government. Their assets weren't threatened. Their jobs weren't threatened.

The way these two groups have been treated are night and day. That cannot be argued. One of the instances had violence and destruction on a large scale associated with it, even if many of those protests were peaceful they often descended into chaos at night. The other has not to this point. Odd that the more peaceful group of protests were demonized while the more violent group of protests weren't.
 
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luthervol said:
At the point where the government officially labels them as a terrorist organization and warns the public that their assets will be frozen if they donate to them.
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So you do not believe them to be terrorists, but support the gov't labeling them as such and freezing the assets of those who financially support them. Are you listening to yourself?
 
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C-south said:
So the government should have subjective authority to label groups terrorists because they don’t agree with them?
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Trump labels Democrat rivals as terrorists and announces that he would freeze the assets of anyone found to donate to that party...
 
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luthervol said:
If they continue to break the law after multiple warnings. But I would prefer they just be arrested.

I've answered the same question about 20 times now.
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I might have missed that in your replies re: donors, as opposed to participants.

Your prescription ultimately leaves no means of redress for rights denied, rendering them nothing but privileges.
 
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