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This was Ice Cube writing down watered-down versions of things that organizers are already doing/have already done and then grandstanding like he thought of them first
 
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Then Trump takes some ancillary point from his plan, ignores the rest and uses Ice Cube as a mascot because that’s what he does
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I'll repost this from another thread...
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I have a lot of wealthy black clients. They’ve been doing extremely well under trump. I can’t imagine this victim, race war, garbage will be something they want to get on board with. I’d guess that These radical ideas will push a lot of blacks away from the left.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Then Trump takes some ancillary point from his plan, ignores the rest and uses Ice Cube as a mascot because that’s what he does
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So you are suggesting that Ice Cube is allowing Trump to play him like a token black? Really? In this climate where certainly a person like Ice Cube is race conscious, you're saying that Ice Cube is allowing himself to be tokenized?

Not buying that.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Then Trump takes some ancillary point from his plan, ignores the rest and uses Ice Cube as a mascot because that’s what he does
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And the Dems just told him to wait until they won. You can belittle what the Rs have done if you want. But the Dems didnt help themselves here.
 
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Democrats have been able to dupe black people for a long time. Hand out freebies and make it additive without redeeming policies that help liberate you from the need to have them. Clearly this policy is for all people but it's really caused greater harm to blacks. Make it beneficial to have no man in the home. They've been convincing over and over and over and over and over again.

Blacks have been the most devoted voting block of the democratic party for the last 50 years, and the last holdouts on political individualism. This monolithic voting idea is now at a rabid all time high with social media. That is where you are shamed if you do something outside the box of group think, where big tech, other corporations, the media, celebrities and idiots all alike try to come down on you and isolate you if you dare step across the aisle.

They mostly do this to who they see as their stronghold to the black voter - celebrity personalities (win the culture war). You can't partner with republicans because many others might want to leave the plantation too. This is dangerous to them like slaves learning to read - Frederick Douglass thought.

As @Rasputin_Vol said 20% vote and the democrats know it's over. And yes, if it doesn't happen this cycle then it will be soon. A Joe Biden victory will ensure it even more because a Joe Biden victory will be harmful for blacks. Many blacks want the same American dream as white American. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A family. A honest days pay for hard work and ingenuity. Safety and security. Faith and obedience to God to make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

This political shaming by these hacks remind me of what the devil does when you draw nearer to God. Lucifer comes after you hard with evil intentions and trickery. Why waste time on the ones already in the bag. Go after the ones that try to leave the stranglehold of propaganda, lies, and victimization. It is not easy standing alone being condemned for your actions as noble as they might be.

You start thinking you might have to get some new friends. You lose some, but you gain others. Calling people coon, etc is modern stone throwing in a 1st World country. But more and more black people are rumbling about the democratic party. The democratic party knows it. They sent their front line soldiers after people who dare stand up to them.

When black people really understand en masse that all this racist talk is not about race, it's about class warfare then policies don't get better than help the communities. Shape all communities. Illegal immigrants are flooding upscale communities. They are flooding into low income communities and neighborhoods where resources are already tight. Illegals and foreign nationalists are the democrats way to total takeover. By the time this is figured out how much will all of us have lost if the Democrats control every branch of government. America will never by the same, and blacks like everyone are democrat guinea pigs to bigger ideologies of the power class.


KB5252 said:
It probably won't be this cycle, but I firmly believe there will be a significant portion of the AA community, and people of color in general will abandon the Democrat party. You can only promise the same thing for so long without delivering.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So you are suggesting that Ice Cube is allowing Trump to play him like a token black? Really? In this climate where certainly a person like Ice Cube is race conscious, you're saying that Ice Cube is allowing himself to be tokenized?

Not buying that.
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If he were “race-conscious” he would speak to the many people on the ground already working to put these ideas into action (and maybe spotlight them instead of himself) instead of playing the role of out-of-touch celebrity writing a memo to politicians by himself. If he were race-conscious he would push for something more than a plan heavy on “consider” and “examine” and “advance” and very light on concrete action. What is Trump really giving up for this photo op?

Also this:

Well, for one thing, organizers and community activists focused on abolition, climate, and labor have been building movements for decades and making important gains both within and beyond the two-party political system. These experiences have imparted crucial wisdom about the typically short-term gains made through collaborating with presidents (even the landmark Voting Rights Act of 1965 has been severely gutted) and the importance of collectively-designed strategies when engaging with those in power. Anyone curious to hear about these learnings could begin by reading histories of Black-led organizing within their neighborhoods and nationally or simply attending local meetings (virtually, for now).

Yet, it’s clear that when these under-informed and overconfident men march onto the scene, they’re less interested in contending with the messy, long-term work of community organizing and more eager to present as Black messiahs, ready to step up and get things done for their people.
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LouderVol said:
And the Dems just told him to wait until they won. You can belittle what the Rs have done if you want. But the Dems didnt help themselves here.
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I agree, they shouldn’t have brushed him off and should instead point out the ways those ideas are already being implemented. That might have been what happened, but knowing the Democrat Party nothing would shock me
 
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BreatheUT said:
Democrats have been able to dupe black people for a long time. Hand out freebies and make it additive without redeeming policies that help liberate you from the need to have them. Clearly this policy is for all people but it's really caused greater harm to blacks. Make it beneficial to have no man in the home. They've been convincing over and over and over and over and over again.

Blacks have been the most devoted voting block of the democratic party for the last 50 years, and the last holdouts on political individualism. This monolithic voting idea is now at a rabid all time high with social media. That is where you are shamed if you do something outside the box of group think, where big tech, other corporations, the media, celebrities and idiots all alike try to come down on you and isolate you if you dare step across the aisle.

They mostly do this to who they see as their stronghold to the black voter - celebrity personalities (win the culture war). You can't partner with republicans because many others might want to leave the plantation too. This is dangerous to them like slaves learning to read - Frederick Douglass thought.

As @Rasputin_Vol said 20% vote and the democrats know it's over. And yes, if it doesn't happen this cycle then it will be soon. A Joe Biden victory will ensure it even more because a Joe Biden victory will be harmful for blacks. Many blacks want the same American dream as white American. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A family. A honest days pay for hard work and ingenuity. Safety and security. Faith and obedience to God to make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

This political shaming by these hacks remind me of what the devil does when you draw nearer to God. Lucifer comes after you hard with evil intentions and trickery. Why waste time on the ones already in the bag. Go after the ones that try to leave the stranglehold of propaganda, lies, and victimization. It is not easy standing alone being condemned for your actions as noble as they might be.

You start thinking you might have to get some new friends. You lose some, but you gain others. Calling people coon, etc is modern stone throwing in a 1st World country. But more and more black people are rumbling about the democratic party. The democratic party knows it. They sent their front line soldiers after people who dare stand up to them.

When black people really understand en masse that all this racist talk is not about race, it's about class warfare then policies don't get better than help the communities. Shape all communities. Illegal immigrants are flooding upscale communities. They are flooding into low income communities and neighborhoods where resources are already tight. Illegals and foreign nationalists are the democrats way to total takeover. By the time this is figured out how much will all of us have lost if the Democrats control every branch of government. America will never by the same, and blacks like everyone are democrat guinea pigs to bigger ideologies of the power class.
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A dumb and racist rant.

Black people haven't been duped. We are not dumb like your whole long winded post is saying. We are smart and vote with our interests.

Republicans are and have been against our best interests.

Racists keep putting down black people with thoughts like this and wonder why we don't want to vote with your side.
 
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BreatheUT said:
See this is one of those front line goons.
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You are a front line racist that thinks black people are too dumb to think for themselves or vote on the issues.

We do vote on issues and make educated voting choices. That means vote Dem 99% of the time.

Most black people live in urban areas. Urban areas have better education especially about political issues. Black women are the most educated American citizens. We vote on the issues with a well informed viewpoint.
 
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k-town_king said:
A dumb and racist rant.

Black people haven't been duped. We are not dumb like your whole long winded post is saying. We are smart and vote with our interests.

Republicans are and have been against our best interests.

Racists keep putting down black people with thoughts like this and wonder why we don't want to vote with your side.
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First, you are not very bright. I don't gear my messages to divulge my ethnicity.

I grew up in the hood. Because I don't use you monolithic talking points it's probably hard to recognize.

The problem with you is the very same ideas that allowed you to become successful, if you are, are the very same tools others can use. There is a segment of the population that don't want that to happen.

You are limited in your scope of ideas. It's just true. You are a prisoner of your own facts. I doubt you challenge yourself - it's called introspection. You were born, raised and currently think the same things as those before you. You are destined to pass it along at this point.
 
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k-town_king said:
You are a front line racist that thinks black people are too dumb to think for themselves or vote on the issues.

We do vote on issues and make educated voting choices. That means vote Dem 99% of the time.

Most black people live in urban areas. Urban areas have better education especially about political issues. Black women are the most educated American citizens. We vote on the issues with a well informed viewpoint.
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Dude you vote on who the democratic party tells you to vote. You spot who you identify as the biggest racist, or who your told is the biggest racist, and vote for the other person. I got news for you - everybody is a racist if it's political expedient. You call me a racist. A common refrain with you have nothing of substance.

What issues are important to you that Biden will deliver on versus Trump?

You are the racist. They are in your posts here and on the sports board.

You ain't fooling me.
 
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k-town_king said:
A dumb and racist rant.

Black people haven't been duped. We are not dumb like your whole long winded post is saying. We are smart and vote with our interests.

Republicans are and have been against our best interests.

Racists keep putting down black people with thoughts like this and wonder why we don't want to vote with your side.
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Democratic policies over the last half century or more have been able to destroy the black family in a way that 2 centuries of slavery couldn't do.

Facts
 
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BreatheUT said:
Dude you vote on who the democratic party tells you to vote. You spot who you identify as the biggest racist, or who your told is the biggest racist, and vote for the other person. I got news for you - everybody is a racist if it's political expedient. You call me a racist. A common refrain with you have nothing of substance.

What issues are important to you that Biden will deliver on versus Trump?

You are the racist. They are in your posts here and on the sports board.

You ain't fooling me.
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Sure. Buddy.

Keep up the dumb "black people vote Dem because they are stupid" racist routine.
Rasputin_Vol said:
Democratic policies over the last half century or more have been able to destroy the black family in a way that 2 centuries of slavery couldn't do.

Facts
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May be the single dumbest and one of the most offensive things said here.
 
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k-town_king said:
A dumb and racist rant.

Black people haven't been duped. We are not dumb like your whole long winded post is saying. We are smart and vote with our interests.

Republicans are and have been against our best interests.

Racists keep putting down black people with thoughts like this and wonder why we don't want to vote with your side.
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Exactly what interests are Republicans against exactly?

Since you brought it up...
 
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