Cancer Vaccine

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Most folks don't know that your normal immune system attacks cancer cells, particularly using natural killer cells. This immune system approach has been investigated since I was in med school over 14 years ago. This seems promising, but understand that animal models don't always translate to humans. Just trying to temper expectations. I honestly hope it works, don't get me wrong. Currently, we basically use poison and hope the patient lives through it. This would be a much better approach.
 
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Even if it does work, the FDA won’t approve it. I work in healthcare, and all it is in the US is a money racket.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Most folks don't know that your normal immune system attacks cancer cells, particularly using natural killer cells. This immune system approach has been investigated since I was in med school over 14 years ago. This seems promising, but understand that animal models don't always translate to humans. Just trying to temper expectations. I honestly hope it works, don't get me wrong. Currently, we basically use poison and hope the patient lives through it. This would be a much better approach.
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100% correct. Simple research online will bring up numerous doctors in the US with cancer cure rates of 90+%, arrested for fraud. The doctors did natural medicine (foods,drinks,diets,plants).
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Most folks don't know that your normal immune system attacks cancer cells, particularly using natural killer cells. This immune system approach has been investigated since I was in med school over 14 years ago. This seems promising, but understand that animal models don't always translate to humans. Just trying to temper expectations. I honestly hope it works, don't get me wrong. Currently, we basically use poison and hope the patient lives through it. This would be a much better approach.
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My dad died tuesday from a very aggressive sarcoma at fort sanders cancer 8th floor. 9 weeks ago he had a couple tumors I. His abdomen, it spread to his brain and took him in 2 months despite chemo. Chemo is garbage honestly. Like you said, poison. I hate cancer. Hope thus new stuff works
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
My dad died tuesday from a very aggressive sarcoma at fort sanders cancer 8th floor. 9 weeks ago he had a couple tumors I. His abdomen, it spread to his brain and took him in 2 months despite chemo. Chemo is garbage honestly. Like you said, poison. I hate cancer. Hope thus new stuff works
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Sorry for your loss. Unfortunately, far too many of us have been touched by cancer. My sister, father, aunt, uncle, and grandmother all had varied forms of it. Only the latter two actually died from it, but it's far more common than most realize. All of our cells have the potential to become cancerous as they divide. All it takes is one that is allowed to take hold. Terrible disease.
 
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The best hope we currently have is eartly screening. Genomic testing and targeted therapy we are winning and will win the big game in the future. God bless all of those that have battled and lost and for those who won.. help others win!
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
My dad died tuesday from a very aggressive sarcoma at fort sanders cancer 8th floor. 9 weeks ago he had a couple tumors I. His abdomen, it spread to his brain and took him in 2 months despite chemo. Chemo is garbage honestly. Like you said, poison. I hate cancer. Hope thus new stuff works
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I’m very sorry for your loss
 
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In defense of chemotherapy: I have a handful of families that would gladly give testimony of their children's successful battle with cancer and cure through modern medical protocol. I wish I could post pictures of my beautiful children that have been cured of leukemia, brain, bone, and thyroid cancers.

Thanks to the research (primarily chemotherapy) of St Jude's Hospital, the survival rate of many pediatric malignancies is now over 90%. Amazing.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
In defense of chemotherapy: I have a handful of families that would gladly give testimony of their children's successful battle with cancer and cure through modern medical protocol. I wish I could post pictures of my beautiful children that have been cured of leukemia, brain, bone, and thyroid cancers.

Thanks to the research (primarily chemotherapy) of St Jude's Hospital, the survival rate of many pediatric malignancies is now over 90%. Amazing.
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I agree. My girkfriends mom had leaukemia as a child in the late 70’s and got cured at st Jude.
 
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My wife had chemo for stage 3 colon cancer. I have no idea if the chemo cured her, but she is 6 or 7 years cancer free, now.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
My dad died tuesday from a very aggressive sarcoma at fort sanders cancer 8th floor. 9 weeks ago he had a couple tumors I. His abdomen, it spread to his brain and took him in 2 months despite chemo. Chemo is garbage honestly. Like you said, poison. I hate cancer. Hope thus new stuff works
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Sorry for your lost, Marcus. Prayers your way.
 
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To clarify, I wasn't suggesting chemo can't work. I was simply stating that the way it works is pretty awful. You poison the whole body and hope the good cells outlive the bad. That's why the side effects are so terrible. If we can successfully utilize the immune system to fight cancer, treatments should be much better tolerated.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
Most folks don't know that your normal immune system attacks cancer cells, particularly using natural killer cells. This immune system approach has been investigated since I was in med school over 14 years ago. This seems promising, but understand that animal models don't always translate to humans. Just trying to temper expectations. I honestly hope it works, don't get me wrong. Currently, we basically use poison and hope the patient lives through it. This would be a much better approach.
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Longer than 14 years ago. David Ferrie had a New Orleans lab in the 1960's that did cancer virus research based on some of the findings made after the first deployment of the polio vaccine was shown to have cancer causing viruses.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Longer than 14 years ago. David Ferrie had a New Orleans lab in the 1960's that did cancer virus research based on some of the findings made after the first deployment of the polio vaccine was shown to have cancer causing viruses.
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Please repeat without the run-on sentence.

Or better yet I'll interpret for you. Your genes determine your longevity.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Longer than 14 years ago. David Ferrie had a New Orleans lab in the 1960's that did cancer virus research based on some of the findings made after the first deployment of the polio vaccine was shown to have cancer causing viruses.
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You're correct. Sorry I wasn't clearer. I really meant that it's not a new concept. I had classmates who were involved in such research in med school, but it definitely didn't originate then.
 
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VolStrom said:
Please repeat without the run-on sentence.

Or better yet I'll interpret for you. Your genes determine your longevity.
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The first polio vaccine deployment was found to cause cancer in mice before and after the general public had already been given the vaccine. David Ferrie and Dr Mary Sherman had a lab in New Orleans that built off of these findings and their work soon moved towards weaponizing the cancer virus.

And really, this shouldn't be too unfamiliar to most people by now. We have been treating cervical cancer with an HPV vaccine for some time now.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And really, this shouldn't be too unfamiliar to most people by now. We have been treating cervical cancer with an HPV vaccine for some time now.
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For clarification: the HPV vaccine is meant to prevent infection with the HP virus, a predisposing factor for malignant transformation of cervical cells. So, it is really a prevention strategy, not a treatment.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
For clarification: the HPV vaccine is meant to prevent infection with the HP virus, a predisposing factor for malignant transformation of cervical cells. So, it is really a prevention strategy, not a treatment.
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What are the percentages of cervical cancer due to HPV, and what can be done??? I am very very serious about this m6 friend. I have a female frien d with HPV, and I need to know how to prevent or try to best prevent the cancer...and what are the consequences for a man with HPV? Thanks doc, just lost Dad, cant lose more to cancer
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
What are the percentages of cervical cancer due to HPV, and what can be done??? I am very very serious about this m6 friend. I have a female frien d with HPV, and I need to know how to prevent or try to best prevent the cancer...and what are the consequences for a man with HPV? Thanks doc, just lost Dad, cant lose more to cancer
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About 80% of cervical cancer is believed to be caused by HPV strains in the new 9-valent vaccine. Prevention is key as 1/4 to 1/3 of adults in the U.S. likely are infected.

For men, the primary goal of vaccination is to prevent passing the virus on to females. However, HPV also causes genital warts and risk for penile cancer, so there is some "selfish" benefit.

The vaccine doesn't cure infection, thus the push to immunize adolescents before exposure.

Hope this helps, and I'm really sorry for your loss.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
About 80% of cervical cancer is believed to be caused by HPV strains in the new 9-valent vaccine. Prevention is key as 1/4 to 1/3 of adults in the U.S. likely are infected.

For men, the primary goal of vaccination is to prevent passing the virus on to females. However, HPV also causes genital warts and risk for penile cancer, so there is some "selfish" benefit.

The vaccine doesn't cure infection, thus the push to immunize adolescents before exposure.

Hope this helps, and I'm really sorry for your loss.
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To add to this, the current understanding is that essentially all cervical cancer is due to some form of HPV, making it one of the most preventable forms of cancer we face. The vaccine covers the majority, which is great, but responsible sexual activity is also recommended.
 
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