Carroll v. Trump ($88 million judgment for Carroll)

[evillawyer]

Wow, can't believe this case didn't have its own thread already. Former President being accused of rape and we're just like "meh".

So what's you take on the likely verdict? I think Carroll prevails.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Much lower burden of proof required in civil trial....

I think Carroll wins as well.

 

[OrangeTsar]

When does Tara Reade get her day in court?

 

[hog88]

Much lower burden of proof required in civil trial....

I think Carroll wins as well.

It's in Manhattan, of course she wins.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

It's in Manhattan, of course she wins.

She's nowhere near beyond a reasonable doubt but that's not the standard here. I wouldn't be shocked if jury is deadlocked but I really do not envision a Trump victory...

 

[hog88]

She's nowhere near beyond a reasonable doubt but that's not the standard here. I wouldn't be shocked if jury is deadlocked but I really do not envision a Trump victory...

I have no doubt Trump will lose considering the venue and (if I'm correct) civil cases don't require unanimous verdicts.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I have no doubt Trump will lose considering the venue and (if I'm correct) civil cases don't require unanimous verdicts.

In most places, it's a majority but NYS requires unanimous verdict...

 

[hog88]

In most places, it's a majority but NYS requires unanimous verdict...

In that case Trump has a chance at a hung jury (if that's what it's called in a civil case) but not a win.

 

[Vol737]

When does Tara Reade get her day in court?

Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey and Leslie Millwee are the inquiring minds that want to know that as well. I’m sure EL thinks it was all just harmless fun and bantering on Clinton’s part.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Willey and Leslie Millwee are the inquiring minds that want to know that as well. I’m sure EL thinks it was all just harmless fun and bantering on Clinton’s part.

Then there was good ole Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd
„
Dodd and Kennedy were also reported to have made a 'human sandwich' with a
waitress at La Brasserie, another Capitol Hill restaurant. The report had it
that Kennedy threw the woman on Dodd, who was slumped in a chair, and then
jumped on top of her. She was said to have run screaming from the room."

The victim herself detailed the attack for Penthouse magazine in 1989, which
was summarized by the Washington Times:

"When she put in an appearance in their private retreat - 'The Teddy Kennedy
Fun Room' - the Massachusetts senator picked her up and heaved her onto a
table. The crystal candlesticks and champagne glasses shattered as he
grabbed her again and flung her on top of Dodd.

"Then Kennedy threw himself on top of the woman. The waitress implored Mr.
Kennedy to 'Get off me!'

"Another waitress entered to find 'things all tipped over and Kennedy was on
top, [the waitress] was in the middle and Dodd was on the bottom.' At that
point the sandwich was disassembled."

 

[rekinhavoc]

She preserved a dress with DNA from 1995 or early 1996?

What forethought and planning!

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Jury deliberations underway in E. Jean Carroll battery, defamation case against Trump (msn.com)

 

[LouderVol]

civil case, pretty meh imo. no real standard to meet, you just have to tell a better story to the jury.

 

[ETV]

When does Tara Reade get her day in court?

You already know the answer to this.

 

[85SugarVol]

I have no doubt Trump will lose considering the venue and (if I'm correct) civil cases don't require unanimous verdicts.

A simple preponderance of the evidence. 51%

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

 

[OrangeTsar]

How are we now to interpret a simple unwanted sniff of the hair by Joe Biden then?

 

[scooty_vol]

Much lower burden of proof required in civil trial....

I think Carroll wins as well.

Of course, it's as an objective a trial as you would see in 60s soviet union.

 

[lawgator1]

So let me see if I have this right, from the Trumpster playbook:

1) If verdict for Trump its a complete exoneration and was just and right and should be a message to everyone that it was just political and the jury saw through it. The system is great and worked!

2) If verdict for plaintiff, its because of biased jurors too dumb to see it was all political and it means absolutely nothing and the system is broken and did not work!

 

[evillawyer]

Jury is back. Took about 2 hours. Let's see what they say ....

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[LittleVol]

WhHAT IS IT!??

 

[evillawyer]

No finding of rape. But jury finds he did sexually assault her.

 

[evillawyer]

Booyah, b*tches!

 

[UT_VOLS13]

Yes, to sex abuse and forceful touching.