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Falcons02 said:
My point in the first two paragraphs is that these are not your typical lower profile, open-the-season type opponents. These are seasoned football teams that have a recent history of winning, going to bowl games, and winning those bowl games. They're good teams.


"If UT can't come out of the gate and beat USU then this program is in deep sh&t."


.... where have you been the last 6 years??
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:lolabove::eek:lol::lolabove::eek:lol::good!:

True!

However, it can always get worse.
 
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Falcons02 said:
Utah St. won 9 games last year and beat a ranked N. Illinois team in their bowl game. They have been to a bowl game 3 straight years and have won 2 of the 3.
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USU plays a weak mid-major schedule and beat an overrated team in their bowl. The player losses from their roster were at least as significant as UT's and won't be replaced with players nearly as talented as UT's new starters and contributors.

Arkansas St. won 8 games last year, including their bowl game. They have had 3 straight winning seasons and, like Utah St. have been to 3 straight bowls, winning 2 of the 3.
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See above.

It is hard for me to fathom UF again being as bad as they were last year. On the other hand, I can't see UM being as good as they were last year, Vandy too for that matter.
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Mizzou has significant losses. I agree about UF and Vandy.

These are all winnable games assuming we get good freshmen contributions on defense and the OL steps up. But from a depth standpoint, UT's margin for error/injury will be much, much smaller than Bama/LSU/Auburn et al. I am really hopeful for a bowl season, but I think CBJ is still 1 recruiting class away from a breakout season.
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Every team UT plays this fall has roster issues except Bama and OU. UGA is next best but has a new QB, guys returning from serious injuries, and a weakened secondary. UF is next but has questions on O. OM is probably next but they have unknowns on both sides of the ball and will depend on youth for depth. USCe has major playmaker losses and will also have youth for depth. Mizzou has very significant player losses as does Vandy.

You have to look at UT's situation in the context of their opponents. It sounds daunting for UT to depend on youth as much as they do. But then you look around... and others have problems that are as bad or worse to deal with.
 
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Catbone said:
Mizzouri has a good team to run their system. .
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Really? They lose 7 starters on D including their best 3 or 4 players. They lost ALL of their significant threats from the WR position.

How is it they have a good team to run their system?
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
USU also beat 6 teams on their schedule with a losing record. another team was 6-6 and and another was 7-6. they lost to about every decent team they played. Many of their wins were against the worst FBS teams out there. they also had more turnover than we did and have to travel 2000 miles East.
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My point through all this is that Utah St and Ark St aren't your typical early season opponents. Anyone who thinks these guys are going to come in and roll over are going to be in for a rude awakening. I think UT should beat them both, and honestly these are the types of opponents UT should beat every year... but I wouldn't be surprised if they come here thinking they should win too.
 
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sjt18 said:
USU plays a weak mid-major schedule and beat an overrated team in their bowl. The player losses from their roster were at least as significant as UT's and won't be replaced with players nearly as talented as UT's new starters and contributors.

See above.

Mizzou has significant losses. I agree about UF and Vandy.

Every team UT plays this fall has roster issues except Bama and OU. UGA is next best but has a new QB, guys returning from serious injuries, and a weakened secondary. UF is next but has questions on O. OM is probably next but they have unknowns on both sides of the ball and will depend on youth for depth. USCe has major playmaker losses and will also have youth for depth. Mizzou has very significant player losses as does Vandy.

You have to look at UT's situation in the context of their opponents. It sounds daunting for UT to depend on youth as much as they do. But then you look around... and others have problems that are as bad or worse to deal with.
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I agree with most of what you've said here, but I think everyone is underestimating the fact that these teams have a recent track record of success. Winning breeds winners, and the vets on all the teams you mentioned have experienced success and knows what it takes to win.... something UT can't say. That doesn't mean UT can't or won't win... in fact, I would argue that beating the USU's and A St's of the world, good mid-major teams, can actually be a springboard into competing with the bigger fish on our SEC schedule.

I think UT will beat them both, surprise a team we are an underdog against, and go to a bowl.
 
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Falcons02 said:
My point through all this is that Utah St and Ark St aren't your typical early season opponents. Anyone who thinks these guys are going to come in and roll over are going to be in for a rude awakening. I think UT should beat them both, and honestly these are the types of opponents UT should beat every year... but I wouldn't be surprised if they come here thinking they should win too.
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So you wouldn't compare them with Cincinnati in 2011, or NC State in 2012, or Western Kentucky with Petrino in 2013?
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Did anyone else catch Butch's slap at Dooley.



Butch is not a fan of the "watering Bamoo" method of player development!

Thank YOU! :good!:
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I picked up on it as well.
Dooley is more suited at watering NFL players, telling them it's good to catch the ball, and being Vince's son.
 
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I enter this season the same way I enter every season... We are playing for the NC up until the point it is impossible numbers wise.

You let me worry about my own disappointment. Unlike most around here I know how to deal with a little disappointment without thinking the sky falling.
 
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Cant wait for VOLS calls from Bolivar and Bean Station.. With " I have been waiting 1.5 and I just wanted to say GO VOLS"
 
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ImportedVoL said:
I enter this season the same way I enter every season... We are playing for the NC up until the point it is impossible numbers wise.

You let me worry about my own disappointment. Unlike most around here I know how to deal with a little disappointment without thinking the sky falling.
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Very well stated. :good!: :hi:
 
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We lose to arkansas state and we might as well tear the stadium down. Football is over.

Period
 
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InspectorVol said:
CFB is no much difference than FB played at any level. Older players win more than younger ones, if the talent and coaching is near the same. The fact we are depending on so many true freshmen to come in and contribute if not start should tell any fan all they need to know. 7 is our ceiling this year and that is generous and if the wheels fall off injuries, youth, etc then 4 could be the max.

I will be hoping against hope for a W in every game but we just have to far to go. Look at it like this if a freshmen starts who will be his back up? Thats right, the older guy he beat out. We will be all the way back when we have juniors and seniors as our main players and freshmen only play when they are exceptional, like Jamal Lewis. Going to take Butch 4 or 5 years to get the roster built back like that and that is only if he doesn't miss much.

Of course I hope we shock the world and win the East but I don't see it.
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Spot on.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Why can't this team win 7 of these games?

USU
Ark St.
Chatty
UK
Vandy
UF
Mizzou
Ole Miss
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I don't guess you ever played sports cuz uneven go into a game thinking we can't win, u need to put all the teams on there. Auburn turned it around in ine season, we can too. All the games are winnable. Idgaf who it is. We have some good players that are sec top talent. We gonna be good
 
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Yeah, at least add USClite and GA to the list; you can't say that we didn't hang right in there with both of them last year.
 
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Gruuden said:
I don't guess you ever played sports cuz uneven go into a game thinking we can't win, u need to put all the teams on there. Auburn turned it around in ine season, we can too. All the games are winnable. Idgaf who it is. We have some good players that are sec top talent. We gonna be good
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orangebloodgmc said:
Yeah, at least add USClite and GA to the list; you can't say that we didn't hang right in there with both of them last year.
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Add whichever games you want to that list. I listed those 8 as the most "winnable" on paper. You want to add road games against UGA and S. Carolina, fine.

To Gruuden,

Are you willing to bet on the Vols against Oklahoma, Bama, UGA, and S. Carolina?

Not point spread, straight up. The season record doesn't care if you covered the spread or not.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
I enter this season the same way I enter every season... We are playing for the NC up until the point it is impossible numbers wise.

You let me worry about my own disappointment. Unlike most around here I know how to deal with a little disappointment without thinking the sky falling.
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This....may very well be.....

The best post I have EVER seen on this site.

Congratulations. Seriously.
 
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MrBiggles said:
Those are my 7 with the possibility of winning against Carolina, Ole Miss or Georgia for an 8th.
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I actually listed 8 games. I figure UF and Ole Miss will be the most difficut. UF at home and Ole Miss on the road. UT needs to get 1 of those.

The other 6 are certainly winnable, IMO.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Why can't this team win 7 of these games?

USU
Ark St.
Chatty
UK
Vandy
UF
Mizzou
Ole Miss
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To beat ole miss they r gonna have to break the passing game open. They will load up the box to begin that game and make Worley or whomever beat them with their arm. Ole miss has a young, good defensive I believe
 
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