CCM recruiting philosophy

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#26
whobethis16 said:
But the question is, who would have taken over that situation besides a guy like Cuonzo? If it wasn't him, it was going to be another mid major coach on his level. Nobody with the experience that this fanbase thinks it is entitled to would come here with that mess with the NCAA. He's done a fine job considering everything and deserves to at least finish his contract unless he goes 10-20 or so. If the AD decides at that point to not renew it, so be it, but he's done plenty to have that much.
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It doesn't work like that. I don't know of a single coach at a decent program who "worked out his contract."

You either renew his deal every year or two or you fire him. That's how it works. Having a coach with two or less years left on his deal will crush you in recruiting. It would be cheaper to fire a coach than to keep a lame duck for multiple years while you wait on his deal to run out.
 
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you cannot teach 6'11, I remember there being a guy who played for tennessee named Brian Williams, He was over 400lbs when we started recruiting him, he eventually made it onto the court and contributed good minutes.

This guy will never be a superstar IMO, but he will help.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Who was he getting offered by? Was it real interest or did they just drop in to watch him play?
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I will have to look, they were low level, but not as low as AP. I mean he was committed to western Carolina, they're better than AP...as for interest, he was gonna take visits to auburn and USCjr, so I would say interest was real.
 
#29
#29
I love reading the, we'll kick a$$ next year but then the programs gonna collapse posts...already buttering up the excuses for next year huh? If he kicks a$$ next year he deserves credit, not excuses, but I guarantee it's what coming...the "he backed into a top 25 team" posts will be coming.
 
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#30
Off topic, but isn't today the day Stokes has to declare for the NBA whether with or without an agent? The NBA analysis report I thought was provided to the players yesterday, and players had one day to make up their mind what they were goinig to do. I may be off a day or two, but it's getting close. Anyone seen or heard anything?
 
#31
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PACKERVOL said:
Off topic, but isn't today the day Stokes has to declare for the NBA whether with or without an agent? The NBA analysis report I thought was provided to the players yesterday, and players had one day to make up their mind what they were goinig to do. I may be off a day or two, but it's getting close. Anyone seen or heard anything?
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The way I understand it...today is the NCAA deadline to withdraw, IF YOU HAVE DECLARED...the NBA deadline to declare is the 28th.

So in other words, if you haven't said anything (like Stokes) you can stay quiet until the 28th of April and continue to gather more information.
 
#32
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volbeast33 said:
Whatever kitty cat fan.....you all would be throwing bricks through his office window if he had the same record and recruiting at Kentucky.
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Because we aren't even close to the level of basketball program that Kentucky is.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I love reading the, we'll kick a$$ next year but then the programs gonna collapse posts...already buttering up the excuses for next year huh? If he kicks a$$ next year he deserves credit, not excuses, but I guarantee it's what coming...the "he backed into a top 25 team" posts will be coming.
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Yeah, and you can lead the parade while the rest of us look at what will be one of the very worst rosters in the SEC the following year.
 
#34
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BOP said:
Yeah, and you can lead the parade while the rest of us look at what will be one of the very worst rosters in the SEC the following year.
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Based on what? The 2014 class hasn't even begun yet. We are in on some very good players in the 2014 class. If we have a great year next year then 2014-15 will be a non issue because of the recruits we will land.
 
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BOP said:
Yeah, and you can lead the parade while the rest of us look at what will be one of the very worst rosters in the SEC the following year.
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Lmao...wait, during the year when posters were saying "next year" they were bashed and made fun of saying its always next year...now you're saying if we are kicking a$$ this year you're gonna be on here saying wait til next year???

Lmao, oh the irony.
 
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CAVol said:
Based on what? The 2014 class hasn't even begun yet. We are in on some very good players in the 2014 class. If we have a great year next year then 2014-15 will be a non issue because of the recruits we will land.
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Are we going to release the ever growing number of complete reaches on our roster? If not, one recruiting class will not save the program.
 
#37
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CAVol said:
Because we aren't even close to the level of basketball program that Kentucky is.
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That is a negative, keep us down attitude.....why not strive to get to a big time level instead of settling for mediocrity.
 
#38
#38
BOP said:
The chances of this guy ever adding any value whatsoever to this basketball program are slim to none. Another prayer from a guy who is in way over his head. This year will be good, enjoy it. Because the roof is about to collapse on this program after that.
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ahhhh..... more negative skepticism. Stop pee'in in your cereal, in the mornings, and try milk.
 
#39
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PACKERVOL said:
Off topic, but isn't today the day Stokes has to declare for the NBA whether with or without an agent? The NBA analysis report I thought was provided to the players yesterday, and players had one day to make up their mind what they were goinig to do. I may be off a day or two, but it's getting close. Anyone seen or heard anything?
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It's the last day to pull out of the draft, which I don't think he ever did. He has until the 28th to enter, but he can't back out if he does.
 
#40
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Chris4Vols22 said:
It's the last day to pull out of the draft, which I don't think he ever did. He has until the 28th to enter, but he can't back out if he does.
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Dad aways told me to ALWAYS pull out, if you werent sure your ready. Now, I am still not sure what that means.... but it seems to apply here.
 
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#42
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bleedingTNorange said:
Lmao...wait, during the year when posters were saying "next year" they were bashed and made fun of saying its always next year...now you're saying if we are kicking a$$ this year you're gonna be on here saying wait til next year???

Lmao, oh the irony.
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You're a clown, BOP.
 
#43
#43
We are heading towards Mississippi State bad the following year. Like I said, enjoy next year while it lasts.
 
#44
#44
JettVol said:
you cannot teach 6'11, I remember there being a guy who played for tennessee named Brian Williams, He was over 400lbs when we started recruiting him, he eventually made it onto the court and contributed good minutes.

This guy will never be a superstar IMO, but he will help.
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Future Charles Hathaway, IMO
 
#45
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BOP said:
We are heading towards Mississippi State bad the following year. Like I said, enjoy next year while it lasts.
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How much money you wanna put on it we will finish with a better overall record and conference record in 14-15 than Mississippi state did this year?
 
#46
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volbeast33 said:
Whatever kitty cat fan.....you all would be throwing bricks through his office window if he had the same record and recruiting at Kentucky.
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First of all, I see you singled me out just because I'm a UK fan, thanks!

You can kinda compare CCM at UT right now to Tubby when he was here. I feel like both coaches never fully satisfy the fans desires for postseason success (excluding Tubbys only title with guys he was given). The fans will always want more. It's the way coaching goes. Fans have to accept some coaches struggle to get out of "averageness". It's tough to get rid of the coach though because he still does good enough to earn another year.

Hopefully CCM take UT to the NCAA tourney next year and earns full support from Vol fans. He deserves it.
 
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LittleCat said:
First of all, I see you singled me out just because I'm a UK fan, thanks!

You can kinda compare CCM at UT right now to Tubby when he was here. I feel like both coaches never fully satisfy the fans desires for postseason success (excluding Tubbys only title with guys he was given). The fans will always want more. It's the way coaching goes. Fans have to accept some coaches struggle to get out of "averageness". It's tough to get rid of the coach though because he still does good enough to earn another year.

Hopefully CCM take UT to the NCAA tourney next year and earns full support from Vol fans. He deserves it.
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He doesn't deserve anything, he has to earn it.
 
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