CCM too NICE?

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I'm cool with our coach recruiting players he had previously recruited for Missouri St...but it should not be his first priorities!
I know he wants to have all this "connection" and "take care of" sort of crap but he needs to understand that he can now get more highly skilled players.
Of course these players are going to commit to TN!
He needs to go for big time players if he want TN to be big time. That's all I'm saying. You CAN always develop players but a program needs a couple of slam dunks.
 
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By the videos this Washup kid has no problem with a " slam dunk ". What I see is Coach Martin playing within his comfort zone. He has the pieces for a good team, but unlike Pearl he sees the need at the PG. Its not always the flashy 5 star players that get you to the final four ... its the ones that want to get there. Just ask VCU and Butler.
 
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Let the kid play one game before you judge him because his video shows he is good, and let our coach coach...too many people are judging him already instead of waiting until they see how these players do Martin's system. He is making the best out of what is left, have some faith.
 
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Im a big pearl fan. But besides T.Harris what bigtime players did he get here? Scotty yeh maybe but he has talent but not bigtime. Give me players that not afraid and shows up with the lights on 2* or not. Pearl won with less talent why cant zo
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OP decide if u want someone to build s program, or a one trick pony.

With the AAU scene the way it is, coaches literally have years of trust invested in then by these kids. It's hard, maybe impossible, and don't take this the wrong way, for a zo level coach to take over a program like UT and steal any recruits from march til July. A cal to uk or another elite coach to traditional powerhouse school might be able to do it, but even then u still have handlers to navigate thru and other recruiting tactics by coaches that are already in to deal with.

Sit back, chill, and enjoy the ride. Every kid u get isnt gonna be a homerun, and like another poster said, it's not like Bruce was recruiting kids who were all-stars
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Hopefully it's just because of the timing and there is not enough available players.
I was more concerned about his comfort zone. I don't want him to offer scholarships to kids he had previously reached out to just because he knows it's a guarantee.
Next years class will be important.
 
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Next years class includes kids like poythress who Martin is already recruiting.

Whether this is a 4 year time frame to get big time guys or 1 year depends in large measure on Tobias Harris. If he comes back and improves under Martin then coach can sell that. If he and hopson both go it may be a while.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Next years class includes kids like poythress who Martin is already recruiting.

Whether this is a 4 year time frame to get big time guys or 1 year depends in large measure on Tobias Harris. If he comes back and improves under Martin then coach can sell that. If he and hopson both go it may be a while.
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We better get Polythress. He is from Clarksville!
 
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Dougie_D said:
I'm cool with our coach recruiting players he had previously recruited for Missouri St...but it should not be his first priorities!
I know he wants to have all this "connection" and "take care of" sort of crap but he needs to understand that he can now get more highly skilled players.
Of course these players are going to commit to TN!
He needs to go for big time players if he want TN to be big time. That's all I'm saying. You CAN always develop players but a program needs a couple of slam dunks.
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Let the coach coach and do his own recruiting, that's what he gets paid for, you don't. Have a little faith. It sounds to me like he is already making good pics. He wants, and we want, guys that will play his style of BB.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
By the videos this Washup kid has no problem with a " slam dunk ". What I see is Coach Martin playing within his comfort zone. He has the pieces for a good team, but unlike Pearl he sees the need at the PG. Its not always the flashy 5 star players that get you to the final four ... its the ones that want to get there. Just ask VCU and Butler.
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Everybody keeps talking about Butler and VCU. I have a question for you. Why didn't Hamilton wait until after the NCAAs to talk with Stevens and Smart? If you believe that we should follow their model should we have not at least made an offer to their coaches?
 
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Dougie_D said:
I'm cool with our coach recruiting players he had previously recruited for Missouri St...but it should not be his first priorities!
I know he wants to have all this "connection" and "take care of" sort of crap but he needs to understand that he can now get more highly skilled players.
Of course these players are going to commit to TN!
He needs to go for big time players if he want TN to be big time. That's all I'm saying. You CAN always develop players but a program needs a couple of slam dunks.
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Cuonzo made it pretty clear that his first priorities were Scotty & Tobias, then Jones & Ware.
 
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orange_peel said:
Everybody keeps talking about Butler and VCU. I have a question for you. Why didn't Hamilton wait until after the NCAAs to talk with Stevens and Smart? If you believe that we should follow their model should we have not at least made an offer to their coaches?
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seriously? :horse: :horse:
 
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Dougie_D said:
I'm cool with our coach recruiting players he had previously recruited for Missouri St...but it should not be his first priorities!
I know he wants to have all this "connection" and "take care of" sort of crap but he needs to understand that he can now get more highly skilled players.
Of course these players are going to commit to TN!
He needs to go for big time players if he want TN to be big time. That's all I'm saying. You CAN always develop players but a program needs a couple of slam dunks.
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Yeah, because there's a ton of talent left to get right now. :huh: lulz at your post.
 
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chuck0303 said:
Let the coach coach and do his own recruiting, that's what he gets paid for, you don't. Have a little faith. It sounds to me like he is already making good pics. He wants, and we want, guys that will play his style of BB.
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WHAT?!?! Ok. Now I'm pissed. I was a little sketchy with this hire at first, and then I came to understand more and like the hire. But now you're telling me that Mike Hamilton hired a photographer to coach our basketball team? FIRE HAMILTON NOW!!








I kid, I kid. :hi: :loco: :crazy:
 
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orange_peel said:
Everybody keeps talking about Butler and VCU. I have a question for you. Why didn't Hamilton wait until after the NCAAs to talk with Stevens and Smart? If you believe that we should follow their model should we have not at least made an offer to their coaches?
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Maybe because they were busy pledging allegiance to their schools where both signed extensions. Didn't want to end up like NC State and strike out on all the coaches we originally wanted.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I'm cool with our coach recruiting players he had previously recruited for Missouri St...but it should not be his first priorities!
I know he wants to have all this "connection" and "take care of" sort of crap but he needs to understand that he can now get more highly skilled players.
Of course these players are going to commit to TN!
He needs to go for big time players if he want TN to be big time. That's all I'm saying. You CAN always develop players but a program needs a couple of slam dunks.
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please tell me why any "big time player" would want to come to tn
 
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Not sure what "nice" is. Coach Martin appears to be classy. He seems to be on top of any and all situations that need his attention at the current time.

A fast kid with a 43 inch vertical is a serious jumping off place, no pun intended. They have the coaches who can mold this kid. Only time will tell.
 
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orange_peel said:
Everybody keeps talking about Butler and VCU. I have a question for you. Why didn't Hamilton wait until after the NCAAs to talk with Stevens and Smart? If you believe that we should follow their model should we have not at least made an offer to their coaches?
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You dont read on here much huh? We talked with Stevens. The talks went well actually. But he is not really looking to leave Butler and he was concerned about our NCAA issues. Martin is a better coach than Smart. One good run in the tourney does not make him a better coach. It doesnt even make up for the fact that a team that talented finished 4th in a mid-major conference in the regular season.
 
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orange_peel said:
Everybody keeps talking about Butler and VCU. I have a question for you. Why didn't Hamilton wait until after the NCAAs to talk with Stevens and Smart? If you believe that we should follow their model should we have not at least made an offer to their coaches?
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Didn't say anything about following a model ... i said it doesn't take 5* recruits to get to the final four.
 
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orangepeopleeater said:
By the videos this Washup kid has no problem with a " slam dunk ". What I see is Coach Martin playing within his comfort zone. He has the pieces for a good team, but unlike Pearl he sees the need at the PG. Its not always the flashy 5 star players that get you to the final four ... its the ones that want to get there. Just ask VCU and Butler.
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Not bashing your post totally because I agree with some of it but do you really think Bruce didnt see a need at PG? U could ask any hack off of this site and they could tell u that.
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BasketvolsFan said:
Seeing a need and being able to recruit a quality PG is two completely different things.
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Youre right but he didnt say that did he? But since you bring up the point he didnt try to recruit a quality PG?
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