Jason kidd does it, are you saying he's not a great pg? steve nash passes like a mad man, and didn't develope his jump shot intill many years in the nba. So are you saying neither are great? Farmar has a chance at it. Kobe actually made the players around him better last year. All players had career years last year playing with him, and with kobe attracting double teams, farmar will get that mid range jumper open alot. also he is decent at getting to the basket and finishing, something the lakers dont have right now at the point. I see nothing but good things coming out of farmar.