Chances That Albert Pujols...

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Becomes the greatest hitter of all-time? Barring him getting tagged with doing steroids.

He has put together as impressive a start to a career as anyone in the history of the game. In fact, he has put together arguably the greatest 10-year stretch in the history of baseball.
 
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Lots of variables, as far as injury and such. Im not at my pc, not sure how he looks as far as normalization goes, probably damns good though.
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He has all the numbers to be considered the best ever in about 5 years.

His worst season as a pro is when he hit .327/32 HR/103 RBI.
 
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All depends on his elbow. Says it's back to healthy, but I can see this being a lingering injury bug that only gets worse over time.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
All depends on his elbow. Says it's back to healthy, but I can see this being a lingering injury bug that only gets worse over time.
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Didin't stop him from being the best player in baseball again last year.
 
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What statistical plateu does he have to hit to be considered?

He already has over 400 HR/1,200 RBI and a .330 AVG.
He almost has 1,200 runs scored and will get over 2,000 hits this year.

He's only 31.
 
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GahLee said:
Didin't stop him from being the best player in baseball again last year.
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Nope, but if it continues to deteriorate it will start to catch up with him.

I know he had surgery and says he is as good as new, but it's still something I would keep watch on.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Nope, but if it continues to deteriorate it will start to catch up with him.

I know he had surgery and says he is as good as new, but it's still something I would keep watch on.
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An orthopedic surgeon once told me once that having a joint surgery greatly increased your odds of needing more surgery on that joint in the future, so it's a very real possibility he'll have more trouble from that elbow in the future.
 
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Injured elbow or not, he could hit .300/20 HR/80 RBI the rest of his career and you could still make a legit argument for best hitter of all-time.

If he were to average those number for just 5 more years he would have over 500 HR/1,500 RBI and an AVG that is well over .300.
 
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If you look past 1950, when blacks started playing baseball on every team almost, it's very, very hard to find a better ten year stretch than Albert Pujols.
 
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"H is for Hornsby,
When pitching to Rog,
The pitcher would pitch,
Then the pitcher would dodge "

Ogden Nash
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JTrainDavis said:
Compiled career stats mean next to nothing when saying "best ever"
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Not true at all.

Baseball more than any other sport looks to statistics to determine greatness. Hence virtual ( pre-steroid era ) Cooperstown locks when you got 500 HR or 3,000 hits or 300 wins.

In baseball it is all about stats. Sure you can say Joe DiMaggio is the best ever and make a somewhat valid argument even though he has no business in the discussion when stats are brought up. It's hard to argue for a guy when someone else who played the same amount of time has many more HR/RBI/SB...exct.

He has averaged 40 HR/120 RBI over his first 10 years. I would venture to guess that those career averages are the best in MLB history.

He is in the thick of the best ever conversation to me.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
Nope, but if it continues to deteriorate it will start to catch up with him.

I know he had surgery and says he is as good as new, but it's still something I would keep watch on.
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His elbow is the only thing that could keep him from being in the top 3 all-time IMO.
 
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GahLee said:
Not true at all.

Baseball more than any other sport looks to statistics to determine greatness. Hence virtual ( pre-steroid era ) Cooperstown locks when you got 500 HR or 3,000 hits or 300 wins.

In baseball it is all about stats.
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Not true anymore. Longer careers, smaller parks, and watered down pitching need to be taken into account, hence normalization.

Not that Pujols isn't sure fire hall of famer, but off the top of my head, Ruth, Williams, and Hornsby would place ahead.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
Not true anymore. Longer careers, smaller parks, and watered down pitching need to be taken into account, hence normalization.

Not that Pujols isn't sure fire hall of famer, but off the top of my head, Ruth, Williams, and Hornsby would place ahead.
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Longer careers?

Of the three you refrenced Hornsby played 23 seasons, Ruth played 22 and Williams played 19 ( with 3 lost years due to service ).

Pujols has played just 10, if he plays the shorter of those careers (19) he will have some eye-popping numbers.

Like 700 HR/2,000 RBI/2,000 R/ 3,000 H.
 
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Pujols has a serious, serious shot to get the RBI record.
 
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GahLee said:
Longer careers?

Of the three you refrenced Hornsby played 23 seasons, Ruth played 22 and Williams played 19 ( with 3 lost years due to service ).

Pujols has played just 10, if he plays the shorter of those careers (19) he will have some eye-popping numbers.

Like 700 HR/2,000 RBI/2,000 R/ 3,000 H.
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You're doing a fine job of only using the criteria and information you choose
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