Cheerleading Is Not A Sport

#27
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XtennesseeX said:
True, but when Jimmy Spencer can do it, I wouldn't go to the great distance of calling them athletes. They're very skilled no doubt. I'm not going to put them in the same category as other athletes.
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He is the exception rather than the rule. Barkley, Big Baby Davis, Cecil Fielder, Nate Newton. None of those guys would win a Mr. Universe competition but they are still athletes.
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tri_vol said:
He is the exception rather than the rule. Barkley, Big Baby Davis, Cecil Fielder, Nate Newton. None of those guys would win a Mr. Universe competition but they are still athletes.
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...and they're all more athletic than Jimmy Spencer or 20 other drivers. Being a race car driver is different from any other sport. Racing is more about endurance and patience. Other sports are more about physical ability. (running, jumping, etc.)

I don't see someone like Tony Stewart making his way up and down a court one hundred times every night. Tony Stewart being one of the top drivers, proves it's more about other things than any physical ability.

It doesn't mean drivers are not physically enduring anything during a race; it just means that if we're taking five average athletes from every sport, and make them run an obstacle course - I'll take every sport's average athlete against NASCAR's best.
 
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bamacheats said:
No, size matters. Why are most gymnasts/cheerleaders midgets? Because tall girls have a harder time doing all those stunts.
Example, a buddy I lift weights with is 5'5" 155 lbs. I'm 6'1" 180 lbs. His max bench is 230 and he looks ripped! My max bench is 305 and I look muscular but by no means ripped.
Short muscles do provide an advantage in some sports.
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That doesn't make someone LESS athletic...I don't really understand how you think your argument proves that cheerleaders are not athletic. Tallness does not equal athleticism. :unsure:
 
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VolGal423 said:
That doesn't make someone LESS athletic...I don't really understand how you think your argument proves that cheerleaders are not athletic. Tallness does not equal athleticism. :unsure:
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Then why are gymnasts midgets?
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#32
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XtennesseeX said:
...and they're all more athletic than Jimmy Spencer or 20 other drivers. Being a race car driver is different from any other sport. Racing is more about endurance and patience. Other sports are more about physical ability. (running, jumping, etc.)

I don't see someone like Tony Stewart making his way up and down a court one hundred times every night. Tony Stewart being one of the top drivers, proves it's more about other things than any physical ability.

It doesn't mean drivers are not physically enduring anything during a race; it just means that if we're taking five average athletes from every sport, and make them run an obstacle course - I'll take every sport's average athlete against NASCAR's best.
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I can buy that argument but I still think turning a wheel at 200 mph in a 100+ degree enviroment is more physically demanding than many people realize.
 
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bamacheats said:
Then why are gymnasts midgets?
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I just dont even know what you're trying to say...so I don't know how to respond. You need to check what it means to be a midget. Being short does not equal being a midget.
 
#34
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tri_vol said:
I can buy that argument but I still think turning a wheel at 200 mph in a 100+ degree enviroment is more physically demanding than many people realize.
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I agree...I mean shoot when on a road trip I am exhausted and that's with air conditioning, a drink (non alcoholic of course) and the occasional Chic-Fil-A stop! :)
 
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tri_vol said:
I can buy that argument but I still think turning a wheel at 200 mph in a 100+ degree enviroment is more physically demanding than many people realize.
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Apparently, you've never driven on Chapman Highway in August with no A/C..
 
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Slydell said:
Apparently, you've never driven on Chapman Highway in August with no A/C..
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Nope. Best I've ever done is about 110 on I-75 around Loudon. I did have to use the shoulder as a 3rd lane. We were trying to outrun a mad fat shirtless redneck in a 1978 Datsun pickup. (Hope that doesn't describe anyone that might be reading this)
 
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tri_vol said:
Nope. Best I've ever done is about 110 on I-75 around Loudon. I did have to use the shoulder as a 3rd lane. We were trying to outrun a mad fat shirtless redneck in a 1978 Datsun pickup. (Hope that doesn't describe anyone that might be reading this)
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I doubt the person you described would know how to read.
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tri_vol said:
Nope. Best I've ever done is about 110 on I-75 around Loudon. I did have to use the shoulder as a 3rd lane. We were trying to outrun a mad fat shirtless redneck in a 1978 Datsun pickup. (Hope that doesn't describe anyone that might be reading this)
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Depends. Was it green?:p
 
#39
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No I think it was more of a rust color, so hopefully it wasn't you Sly. Your probably right Bama. That guy might not even have electricity yet. He was the stereotypical redneck.
 
#40
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tri_vol said:
No I think it was more of a rust color, so hopefully it wasn't you Sly. Your probably right Bama. That guy might not even have electricity yet. He was the stereotypical redneck.
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All sorts all over TN. Good an bad. Mostly good, though.
 
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tri_vol said:
I can buy that argument but I still think turning a wheel at 200 mph in a 100+ degree enviroment is more physically demanding than many people realize.
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So is working in a coal mine, but it's not a sport.
 
#43
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I have no problem with calling competitive cheerleading a sport. It's probably more a sport than some of the Olympic sports, and they are athletes. Don't really have a problem calling racing a sport but saying some of those guys are athletes is funny.
 
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Godfatha said:
I have no problem with calling competitive cheerleading a sport. It's probably more a sport than some of the Olympic sports, and they are athletes. Don't really have a problem calling racing a sport but saying some of those guys are athletes is funny.
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Couldn't you say the same thing about some NFL, NBA and MLB guys?
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#46
#46
What about lumberjack and strongman competitions? Sport or not?
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#47
#47
NFL. Certainly. Even the big, fat 350 lb. guys have to run, push around other 350 lb guys, etc.

NBA. If you're not some sort of athlete, you aren't going to make it. Just being big isn't enough. Big guys have to run the floor, too.

MLB. You might have a point here. Outfielders obviously athletes, but you can hide non-athletes somewhat successfully at the DH, 1B, and 3B.

Racing drivers are very skilled people, no doubt about it. I enjoy racing myself, particularly F1, and what those guys can do is amazing, but I wouldn't lump them in the athlete category, although many of them may be.
 
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tri_vol said:
What about lumberjack and strongman competitions? Sport or not?
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Gosh. I think these more as athletic competitions than as sports, but that's probably wrongfully tainted by viewing sports as something that is more organized, has leagues, governing bodies, etc. And those competitions may have that, I don't know much about them.
 
#49
#49
Princeton dictionary says "an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition" or "the occupation of athletes who compete for pay".

Seems like a pretty broad scope.
 
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tri_vol said:
Princeton dictionary says "an active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition" or "the occupation of athletes who compete for pay".

Seems like a pretty broad scope.
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That it is.

One definition of a sport.
  • Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.

Racing would qualify.

One definition of an athlete.

  • A person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.

You have to ask yourself if race car drivers are in contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength. Or you have to ask, are they involved in a sport that is requiring physical skill.

My opinion, Racing is a sport. However, it doesn't make them athletes.

To the OP, I don't see why cheerleading competitions wouldn't be defined as a sport. Basic cheerleading, I can understand. With the competitions, they are often organized, and require physical skill; thus to me - it's a sport.
 
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