Chism's IDIOTIC trey attempt...

#26
#26
hohenfelsvol said:
The only reason he was there to shoot that three is he was slow getting down on the floor. We were down by a million and need the three. He was open. I don't fault him for taking it. He doesn't take that many to begin with but when he's open, go for it. This team has so many other problems that Chism's occasional 3 point doesn't matter in the big picture.
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he shot that 3 from the wing. It wasn't his typical delayed break 3.
 
#27
#27
He needs to be more selective of when he takes those three's. He's had poor judgement of that lately.
 
#30
#30
Chism is the second best three point shooter on the team right now, I don't care what percentages say. Don't take that away from him just because he can play inside too.
 
#31
#31
What was Chism going to opt to? pull it out and let Cameron Tatum, Bobby Maze and Scotty Hopson have a passing affair? or let Tyler Smith (hobbling on one leg) put his head down and flip up a shot?.. really, which one?
 
#32
#32
BigPapaVol said:
he shot that 3 from the wing. It wasn't his typical delayed break 3.
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He shot it because nobody else looked like they wanted to take a shot, the clock was running down, and he had an open look. I might blame the coaches for not setting up a play to feed Wayne down low, but I don't blame Wayne for taking that shot given the situation.
 
#33
#33
TennNC said:
He shot it because nobody else looked like they wanted to take a shot, the clock was running down, and he had an open look. I might blame the coaches for not setting up a play to feed Wayne down low, but I don't blame Wayne for taking that shot given the situation.
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I blame Wayne in that he didn't know any better. I blame the coaches in that they didn't tell him any better. Threes from WC are awful shots, period. I don't care how many he makes, there is always a better shot available, assuming there is someone else in the gym besides Prince. I'd have to believe that Tyler Smith was more than willing to take a shot at that point.
 
#34
#34
BigPapaVol said:
Threes from WC are awful shots, period. I don't care how many he makes, there is always a better shot available.
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except when his shots go in.

and except when hopson telegraphs his shot and gets it blocked, or shoots an airball.

and except when bobby maze misses a three or drives the lane and gets it blocked or stripped attempting a right-handed layup off his right foot.

and except when brian williams shoots flat-footed and gets it blocked.

and except when cam tatum takes off toward the basket without knowing what he's going to do with it.

and except when the shot-clock is running down and nobody else has given any indication that they want to make something happen on that possession.

and, yes, except when prince shoots it.

so, other than those options, you're right - it is an awful shot.
 
#35
#35
TennNC said:
except when his shots go in.

and except when hopson telegraphs his shot and gets it blocked, or shoots an airball.

and except when bobby maze misses a three or drives the lane and gets it blocked or stripped attempting a right-handed layup off his right foot.

and except when brian williams shoots flat-footed and gets it blocked.

and except when cam tatum takes off toward the basket without knowing what he's going to do with it.

and except when the shot-clock is running down and nobody else has given any indication that they want to make something happen on that possession.

and, yes, except when prince shoots it.

so, other than those options, you're right - it is an awful shot.
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I don't buy the list. Some of those guys have a chance of drawing a foul. Chism has no chance of drawing a foul and with him as shooter our offensive rebounding drops way off.
 
#36
#36
BigPapaVol said:
I don't buy the list. Some of those guys have a chance of drawing a foul. Chism has no chance of drawing a foul and with him as shooter our offensive rebounding drops way off.
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our chance of scoring drops way off if nobody shoots.
 
#38
#38
BigPapaVol said:
Chism has no chance of drawing a foul and with him as shooter our offensive rebounding drops way off.
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I said the same thing at the game last night. With him shooting from outside, not only are we unlikely to make the basket, but we are also without our best rebounder down low.

And, whoever said that he is our 2nd best 3-point shooter is, well. . . ., crazy.
 
#39
#39
kiddiedoc said:
I said the same thing at the game last night. With him shooting from outside, not only are we unlikely to make the basket, but we are also without our best rebounder down low.

And, whoever said that he is our 2nd best 3-point shooter is, well. . . ., crazy.
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I just want it on the record that you're a basketball savant.
 
#40
#40
Ya, i agree with the first post. I said right after he shot that 3 that it wouldn't be good for us. Low and Behold Meeks hits 2 three pointers in a row and a couple free throws and the next thing you know we are down by 20. Wayne did a similar thing against Kansas. We got it down to 4 of 5 I believe, he takes a 3 pointer and we don't score for a while again, giving Kansas a lead that couldn't be caught with the amount of time left.

I don't mind him shooting in the first half or early in the second if he has an open shot, but he doesn't need to be jacking up 3's with less than 10 minutes to go.
 
#41
#41
I had reached a boiling point watching us get abused by Meeks, and then it changed to total disbelief, when we did not post up Wayne down low, down by 7 with 4 fouls on Patterson and Harris. I was talking to everyone around me how we should not take another shot that was not within 5 feet of the basket and keep pounding it inside, as that would be our only chance. Then we do our usual crap and he jacks up a 3. I would put most of the blame on Bruce on this one, as he should have called a timeout and emphasized this at that point and set that up, with 15 or 20 seconds on the shot clock. Of course, I am starting to wonder if our players low basketball IQ is a direct reflection of its coaching.
 
#42
#42
TennNC said:
except when his shots go in.

and except when hopson telegraphs his shot and gets it blocked, or shoots an airball.

and except when bobby maze misses a three or drives the lane and gets it blocked or stripped attempting a right-handed layup off his right foot.

and except when brian williams shoots flat-footed and gets it blocked.

and except when cam tatum takes off toward the basket without knowing what he's going to do with it.

and except when the shot-clock is running down and nobody else has given any indication that they want to make something happen on that possession.

and, yes, except when prince shoots it.

so, other than those options, you're right - it is an awful shot.
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this list = miserable fail
 
#43
#43
anyone who cant see why it was a bad play for Chism to brick up a 3 as opposed to posting up Patterson who had 4 fouls....I don't even know why you are on a basketball forum.

I love Chism's defense, his post play, his offensive rebounding. But just because he's had a couple games in his career where he made 2 or 3 3-pointers does not make him JJ Redick. He's shooting below 25% for the season from 3-land. For those who still can't see why its a bad play, that means he misses AT LEAST 3 of every 4 3-point shots.

Also, when he does step out for that 3, our offensive rebounding capability (one of the things we actually do well) falls off to around zero. Wayne needs to stay down low. :clapping:
 
#44
#44
Is it any wonder that guys like Chism get bored with our Flex offense and wander out to the 3 point line for some action? I'm no basketball expert, but it's mind numbing watching us repeatedly get in a half court set and have the shot clock get under 10 before we ever even get a touch inside the 3 point line.
 
#45
#45
GAVol said:
Is it any wonder that guys like Chism get bored with our Flex offense and wander out to the 3 point line for some action? I'm no basketball expert, but it's mind numbing watching us repeatedly get in a half court set and have the shot clock get under 10 before we ever even get a touch inside the 3 point line.
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If you get after the flex hard and run it crisp with its permutations, it's not boring in the least. You're describing some serious focus issues.
 
#46
#46
BigPapaVol said:
If you get after the flex hard and run it crisp with its permutations, it's not boring in the least. You're describing some serious focus issues.
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That very well could be. At times it looks like we are running the offense at the speed of a walk-through in pregame. It was amazing to watch the Kentucky defense at times and notice how little they were having to work early in the shot clock.
 
#47
#47
GAVol said:
That very well could be. At times it looks like we are running the offense at the speed of a walk-through in pregame. It was amazing to watch the Kentucky defense at times and notice how little they were having to work early in the shot clock.
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And that's a huge problem. Hell, they were in a man and we still didn't set up an offense about a third of the time. I thought that was limited to our lack of Zone O. When we did, our screens and cuts off them were an embarrassment.
 
#48
#48
At this point, our best offense is Tyler Smith from the high post putting the ball on the rim any way possible.
 
#49
#49
Who is this calling out Wayne Chism saying he doesn't hustle and he "would bench his ass in a second." Chism has basically been the lone bright spot as of late. He is without a doubt our second best player. You obviously have not been watching the games very closely.
 
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#50
#50
Wayne Chism has shot a horrible percentage from three this year compared to last. He needs to be focused on being down low and getting more rebounds and points. If you watch the games closely you will see the lack of effort from Wayne Chism....a lot of standing around and watching. He shifts momentum too much in critical times and a lot of this is due to coaching. Hopson should be driving to the basket, Tatum shooting and driving with Smith, Chism, Williams down low. I have to agree with jbgtivol1, I would rather see Negedu's hussle and defense rather than Chism's half a$$ed approach. Who says Negedu won't score or rebound like Chism unless you give him a chance.
 
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