Chris Johnson -vs- Darren McFadden

#26
#26
Heard on Nashville radio this morning...A new nickname for Chris Johnson: Fail Sayers

I don't agree, but did LOL.
 
#27
#27
volfanjustin said:
He has had 1 great season, 2 good ones and probably this season and average one.
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If by having a 4.9 YPC average is just a good season than I'll take it. That looks like college numbers gaining nearly 5 yards per carry. I know a lot of that has to do with the long runs but the fact that he has so many long runs puts him above almost all others.
 
#28
#28
volfanjustin said:
He has had 1 great season, 2 good ones and probably this season and average one.
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Not to mention the o-line isn't blocking for him right now. That has something to do with the poor start, maybe only Barry Sanders could do more with that line.
 
#29
#29
It would be difficult to go wrong with either of these RBs. DMac was injured his first two seasons. He can be great if he stays healthy.
 
#30
#30
volfanjustin said:
In all fairness, couldn't the same argument be made about Johnson? That 2K yard season was amazing but his other 2 seasons were pretty typical of a back especially of a back that gets that many carries. And this season he might not hit 1000 yards.
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Oh look, it's you making a retarded argument again.

They came into the league at the same time.

CJ2K: 4696 yards, 34 TDs, 6 fumbles
DMC: 2406 yards, 15 TDs, 11 fumbles
 
#31
#31
CJ has been better so far, and it's clear. But they and their teams both seem to be reversing course. Time to buy stock in DMC.
 
#32
#32
nbakerld said:
CJ has been better so far, and it's clear. But they and their teams both seem to be reversing course. Time to buy stock in DMC.
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If you mean the Titans are reversing course by improving through greatly improved QB play and employing a competent defensive coordinator, then yes, you're right.

The running game is obviously out of sync, but despite the bad numbers so far this season, it would be premature to believe that the problem can't be rectified. Yes, there is legitimate reason for concern, but at this point, it's a bit early to jump ship on the CJ bandwagon. It's also possible that CJ will have a Larry Johnson-like career arc, though the entire Titans running game looks bad right now.

McFadden is good, but he's got to stay healthy and do a better job of holding on to the ball. However, he is emerging as a top-flight RB. I think he's legit.
 
#33
#33
HSVol said:
If you mean the Titans are reversing course by improving through greatly improved QB play and employing a competent defensive coordinator, then yes, you're right.

The running game is obviously out of sync, but despite the bad numbers so far this season, it would be premature to believe that the problem can't be rectified. Yes, there is legitimate reason for concern, but at this point, it's a bit early to jump ship on the CJ bandwagon. It's also possible that CJ will have a Larry Johnson-like career arc, though the entire Titans running game looks bad right now.

McFadden is good, but he's got to stay healthy and do a better job of holding on to the ball. However, he is emerging as a top-flight RB. I think he's legit.
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Yeah, Titans may be a better team this year than years past. I misspoke. I just mean their offensive lines seem to be going in opposite directions.

I have trouble thinking their rushing woes are going to be rectified. In 3 games he has 98 yards and averages 2.1 ypc. They will definitely improve on that, but I'm not certain they can make it a strength again, this season.
 
#34
#34
VKAman said:
Oh look, it's you making a retarded argument again.

They came into the league at the same time.

CJ2K: 4696 yards, 34 TDs, 6 fumbles
DMC: 2406 yards, 15 TDs, 11 fumbles
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Heck take out his 2,000 yard season and he still out produces DMC;

CJ2K - 2,592 yards (4.5 avg), 20 TDs

Remember too he split carries with LenDale White his rookie season...
 
#38
#38
DMac missed a lot of games due to injury his first two seasons in the NFL. Last year, his third, he only missed a few games due to injury. So far this year, he seems to be dishing out more hurt than he is receiving.
 
#39
#39
MWR said:
DMac missed a lot of games due to injury his first two seasons in the NFL. Last year, his third, he only missed a few games due to injury. So far this year, he seems to be dishing out more hurt than he is receiving.
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Really? According to his NFL.com profile he played in 13 games his rookie season and 12 the following year....does that really count (might not be the best word) as alot?
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#41
#41
TrueOrange said:
Really? According to his NFL.com profile he played in 13 games his rookie season and 12 the following year....does that really count (might not be the best word) as alot?
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He had one good game as a rookie, vs KC about the 3rd game of the season and got hurt. For the rest of the season, he never got fully healthy. So whatever games he appeared in after the injury, he may as well have sat out because he did very little. Similar story his second year, slowed by injuries and didn't get a lot done. Last year he only missed a few games and had a good year. If he can stay healthy this year, he can be a great one.

While most of us Raider fans are pleased with what we have seen from DMac this season, so far the jury is still out on him. He has potential, but potential in the NFL is not used to describe those who play the game at a high level.
 
#42
#42
VKAman said:
Oh look, it's you making a retarded argument again.

They came into the league at the same time.

CJ2K: 4696 yards, 34 TDs, 6 fumbles
DMC: 2406 yards, 15 TDs, 11 fumbles
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Where did I say McFadden was better? Again you reading something that is not there. But pretty typical for you
 
#43
#43
volfanjustin said:
Where did I say McFadden was better? Again you reading something that is not there. But pretty typical for you
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Yeah, CJ was definitely a bust with yardage that goes like 1200-2000-1300. He should have had 1500+ every single year. Kenny Britt was a bust too. But Joseph Addai? There's a special back.
 
#47
#47
MWR said:
Check out the last run of this video. He should have ran over Chump Bailey, but Bailey played it right and went for the legs.

The Donk run D is soft. If you can't run against them something is wrong.

Darren McFadden vs Broncos, week 1, 2011 - YouTube
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they're also not stacking 8-9 in the box against mcfadden nearly every play that's not 3rd and long, though that's probably giving the titans oline run blocking more than they actually deserve
 
#48
#48
I doubt any good NFL defense feared Hasselhoff and the Oi...Titans or Campbell and the Raider's passing game at the start of the year. Now I hear that the Titan WRs are banged up, which means the D can stack the box. But the Raiders have a pleasant surprise in former Vol D. Moore who can actually get open and catch the ball.


With the addition of Moore, the Raider passing game - which has been mostly mythical for the last few years - has to be helping DMac more than the Titan's passing game is helping CJ.
 
#49
#49
MWR said:
I doubt any good NFL defense feared Hasselhoff and the Oi...Titans or Campbell and the Raider's passing game at the start of the year. Now I hear that the Titan WRs are banged up, which means the D can stack the box. But the Raiders have a pleasant surprise in former Vol D. Moore who can actually get open and catch the ball.


With the addition of Moore, the Raider passing game - which has been mostly mythical for the last few years - has to be helping DMac more than the Titan's passing game is helping CJ.
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oh yeah it will if Denarius can manage to keep it up

and (for the titans) that's been the case for the last few years. They'd (opposing teams) much rather stack it up and say "you're going to have to beat us with the pass"

(probably because of how quickly Johnson can score if you mess up and give him the space...it makes me think of like a RB version of that endless double coverage Randy Moss started getting later on) (teams though much rather leave the slower, more plays way for you to score)
 
#50
#50
Better decoy- Johnson
Better career to date- Johnson
More physical- McFadden
Most speed- Johnson
Better season- McFadden
Better projected career- McFadden
 
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