Chris Lowe: "Steele to Clemson?"

[NYYVol]

Saban gave him the title of Head Defensive Coach and made him an associate head coach specifically because he aspires to become a head coach again at some point. I don't care what he said after Baylor, that was 6 years ago and it was Baylor.

He is already learning from one of the brightest defensive minds in Saban so I doubt learning under Monte would be any draw for him. You put too much stock in that. It's not any reason to take a pay cut and a serious demotion.

As for being the DC in waiting, why would he care anything about that when he already has a Head Defensive Coach title? Doesn't make any sense. Why not stay with Bama and then move to take over the defense when Monte leaves if that's what he wants to do?

Some of you put way too much stock in the fact that Steele played and coached at Tennessee previously. He's coached in the NFL and been a head coach since then. Now he's a step below the head coach at Alabama. Why would he give that up to become a position coach? Lots of people don't like their boss at work. Doesn't mean they leave the company to become a janitor at another.

You're misunderstanding me. I don't forsee it happening. I was just showing you a "possible scenario" to where it might be feasible.

He has a good title where he is now. But don't you think he would like to have the possibility of calling plays, and scheming? He will not get that at Bama.


I don't put too much stock in that he played here. I do know that supposedly he was contacted a while back to gauge interest.

And yes that was some time ago when he made those comments. But until you have heard otherwise, it makes you think.

You just never know. Like I said, I don't see it happening. But I also know better than to ever say never.

 

[Sabanocchio]

You're misunderstanding me. I don't forsee it happening. I was just showing you a "possible scenario" to where it might be feasible.

He has a good title where he is now. But don't you think he would like to have the possibility of calling plays, and scheming? He will not get that at Bama.


I don't put too much stock in that he played here. I do know that supposedly he was contacted a while back to gauge interest.

And yes that was some time ago when he made those comments. But until you have heard otherwise, it makes you think.

You just never know. Like I said, I don't see it happening. But I also know better than to ever say never.

Steele is very involved with the game planning and schemes. Why do you have the impression that he doesn't call defensive plays? Does Saban do it? I've never heard anything about it so I'm honestly curious. I would think that it would be Steele.

Regardless of that though, it's not enough to take a demotion over. While he may want to take a DC position and run his own defense, I think it's a dumb career move to go from Head Defensive Coach at Bama to DC at Clemson. It's not even a lateral move. And I think the Steele to UT pipedreams are a waste of time.

 

[Jaytrain5]

Clemson and Steele have been working to get something done for a while now...since the first week of December, actually. I'm surprised to see that Chris Low is just now getting around to reporting it.

 

[NYYVol]

Steele is very involved with the game planning and schemes. Why do you have the impression that he doesn't call defensive plays? Does Saban do it? I've never heard anything about it so I'm honestly curious. I would think that it would be Steele.

Regardless of that though, it's not enough to take a demotion over. While he may want to take a DC position and run his own defense, I think it's a dumb career move to go from Head Defensive Coach at Bama to DC at Clemson. It's not even a lateral move. And I think the Steele to UT pipedreams are a waste of time.

Kirby Smart is the "DC." He has the most say as far as a particular play. I think the final product and most of the scheming is brought to you by Saban.

The only thing about him going to Clemson and being the DC is he would be the man in charge then. Instead of having to share power with Smart and Saban.

I actually think if he did want to get back into a HC role, the Clemson gig probably wouldn't be a bad move.

I have said it more than once, coordinators get first dibs on HC interviews. Now it is true that he is Defensive Head Coach and Associate Head Coach at Bama. But what would look better on his resume? That title or if he went to the ACC and turned Clemson's defense around?

That's if and only if he does want to become a HC again.

 

[UT4EVER]

What is with this Steele talk? You honestly think that Steele would leave Bama to come to UT and be a position coach? You're out of your mind. I think it's a stretch to say he would leave his position to become a Defensive Coordinator, but a position coach? Even DC in waiting. You guys are nuts. Steele has put up with whatever beef he may or may not have with Saban for 2 years. It doesn't appear to be as big of an issue as some on here make it out to be. I promise you he is not going to take a pay cut and two steps down the ladder to take a lowly position coach job. Won't happen, and if you think it has any possibility of occurring, you're off your rocker.

Calm down dude.... To this point nobody stated Steele was a possibility. All that was stated was a posters "opinion" of Steele over Orgeron...

 

[Sabanocchio]

Kirby Smart is the "DC." He has the most say as far as a particular play. I think the final product and most of the scheming is brought to you by Saban.

The only thing about him going to Clemson and being the DC is he would be the man in charge then. Instead of having to share power with Smart and Saban.

I actually think if he did want to get back into a HC role, the Clemson gig probably wouldn't be a bad move.

I have said it more than once, coordinators get first dibs on HC interviews. Now it is true that he is Defensive Head Coach and Associate Head Coach at Bama. But what would look better on his resume? That title or if he went to the ACC and turned Clemson's defense around?

That's if and only if he does want to become a HC again.

You act like being named the Defensive Head Coach was some kind of demotion. It was far from it. Steele has the ultimate say before Saban on everything that goes on defensively. If taking play calling duties were part of the deal and Steele didn't like it, he could have turned down the promotion. Why did he not?

How could being a defensive coordinator look better on a resume? If that were the case, then Steele never would have taken the promotion. That should tell you how ridiculous an assertion you are making. He was PROMOTED. It was an increase in pay and responsibilities. I promise you a team would look to Steele first and Smart second when comparing resumes.

 

[NYYVol]

You act like being named the Defensive Head Coach was some kind of demotion. It was far from it. Steele has the ultimate say before Saban on everything that goes on defensively. If taking play calling duties were part of the deal and Steele didn't like it, he could have turned down the promotion. Why did he not?

How could being a defensive coordinator look better on a resume? If that were the case, then Steele never would have taken the promotion. That should tell you how ridiculous an assertion you are making. He was PROMOTED. It was an increase in pay and responsibilities. I promise you a team would look to Steele first and Smart second when comparing resumes.

So you think Nick Saban will turn over all final decisions to anyone? I could be wrong but that's not anywhere close to what I have heard.

He is a small fish in a BIG pond at Bama. If he goes to Clemson, he is the Big fish. He is the Coordinator, and doesn't have to split hairs, titles, playcalling, scheming with ANYONE.

 

[UT4EVER]

So you think Nick Saban will turn over all final decisions to anyone? I could be wrong but that's not anywhere close to what I have heard.

He is a small fish in a BIG pond at Bama. If he goes to Clemson, he is the Big fish. He is the Coordinator, and doesn't have to split hairs, titles, playcalling, scheming with ANYONE.

....And if Steele is thinking ahead, I would suspect the Clemson HC is probably on a short leash.

 

[NYYVol]

....And if Steele is thinking ahead, I would suspect the Clemson HC is probably on a short leash.

And TDP has already shown that he will hire within with Dabo...


I just really think as far as future goes it is a better fit for him at Clemson. He's hidden in shadows at Bama...

 

[Sabanocchio]

So you think Nick Saban will turn over all final decisions to anyone? I could be wrong but that's not anywhere close to what I have heard.

He is a small fish in a BIG pond at Bama. If he goes to Clemson, he is the Big fish. He is the Coordinator, and doesn't have to split hairs, titles, playcalling, scheming with ANYONE.

I said before Saban. As in he's the final word before Saban.

If he goes to Clemson it will not be in order to improve his resume. It will be because he is not happy with Saban. I don't see it happening though in all honesty.

 

[NYYVol]

I said before Saban. As in he's the final word before Saban.

If he goes to Clemson it will not be in order to improve his resume. It will be because he is not happy with Saban. I don't see it happening though in all honesty.

He is not happy with Saban.

But honestly...why not go to where you don't have to share responsibilities with two others?

It would be different if this was Arkansas State calling and asking him to go there to be DC. Clemson is a dang good job.

 

[Sabanocchio]

BTW, anyone think that Chavis put in a good word for Kevin when he turned down the Clemson job? I'd almost guarantee you he did if he knew Steele was interested in leaving Bama.

 

[NYYVol]

BTW, anyone think that Chavis put in a good word for Kevin when he turned down the Clemson job? I'd almost guarantee you he did if he knew Steele was interested in leaving Bama.

Guaranteed he would. I do know though that Steele has been on Swinney's radar for some time now.

 

[Sabanocchio]

He is not happy with Saban.

But honestly...why not go to where you don't have to share responsibilities with two others?

It would be different if this was Arkansas State calling and asking him to go there to be DC. Clemson is a dang good job.

You're taking this sharing of responsibilities thing too far. Steele is the Defensive Head Coach. He is one step below Saban. If he leaves for another school it will not be because he isn't satisfied with his role on the defense.

Saban promoted him and gave him a raise to keep him from taking the Head job at South Alabama last year. He didn't take away any of his responsibilities, he added to them. Steele gets the credit for Alabama's success on defense. He is the guy that Smart answers to. If it was a bad thing or in any way disadvantageous for Steele to take the promotion, then he would have refused it. It's not. He's one step below the head coach at a major university. He's in prime position to get a head coaching job soon and he wants one better than South Alabama.

I really don't understand why you think that being promoted to DHC and given a raise was in anyway not to Steele's advantage.

Steele makes $360,000 now at Bama. Clemson would have to better that number to get him. He also has a $70,000 buy out.

 

[NYYVol]

You're taking this sharing of responsibilities thing too far. Steele is the Defensive Head Coach. He is one step below Saban. If he leaves for another school it will not be because he isn't satisfied with his role on the defense.

Saban promoted him and gave him a raise to keep him from taking the Head job at South Alabama last year. He didn't take away any of his responsibilities, he added to them. Steele gets the credit for Alabama's success on defense. He is the guy that Smart answers to. If it was a bad thing or in any way disadvantageous for Steele to take the promotion, then he would have refused it. It's not. He's one step below the head coach at a major university. He's in prime position to get a head coaching job soon and he wants one better than South Alabama.

I really don't understand why you think that being promoted to DHC and given a raise was in anyway not to Steele's advantage.

Steele makes $360,000 now at Bama. Clemson would have to better that number to get him. He also has a $70,000 buy out.

I may be taking it for more than it is worth. But as a coach I would much rather have the final say on playcalling and scheming and so on.

I never did share well with others...

 

[Jaytrain5]

Steele makes $360,000 now at Bama. Clemson would have to better that number to get him.

Clearly, Clemson is prepared to do that.

 

[3L with debt]

He is not happy with Saban.

But honestly...why not go to where you don't have to share responsibilities with two others?

It would be different if this was Arkansas State calling and asking him to go there to be DC. Clemson is a dang good job.

I agree. The move would be a good move for Steele. He can already list on his resume that he has worked with Saban and has proven that he can recruit well in the SEC. So, if Dabo does not get the job done, then Steele will be sitting in the catbird seat.

 

[3L with debt]

You're taking this sharing of responsibilities thing too far. Steele is the Defensive Head Coach. He is one step below Saban. If he leaves for another school it will not be because he isn't satisfied with his role on the defense.

Saban promoted him and gave him a raise to keep him from taking the Head job at South Alabama last year. He didn't take away any of his responsibilities, he added to them. Steele gets the credit for Alabama's success on defense. He is the guy that Smart answers to. If it was a bad thing or in any way disadvantageous for Steele to take the promotion, then he would have refused it. It's not. He's one step below the head coach at a major university. He's in prime position to get a head coaching job soon and he wants one better than South Alabama.

I really don't understand why you think that being promoted to DHC and given a raise was in anyway not to Steele's advantage.

Steele makes $360,000 now at Bama. Clemson would have to better that number to get him. He also has a $70,000 buy out.

You make valid points but Saban gets the credit for the play of the defense. I may be wrong but that would seem to me to rub Steele the wrong way. At Clemson, he will not share the credit. But my opinion should be discounted because I am not up to speed with the hierarchy on that defensive staff.

 

[Sabanocchio]

You make valid points but Saban gets the credit for the play of the defense. I may be wrong but that would seem to me to rub Steele the wrong way. At Clemson, he will not share the credit. But my opinion should be discounted because I am not up to speed with the hierarchy on that defensive staff.

Well we know that Chavis wasn't going to be allowed to hire even one guy for his own staff. I wonder if that would enter into the decison for Steele. If I were Steele, I would be looking for the ideal position with the ideal school before I left Bama. Saban might get some of the credit for that defense, but it has Steele's markings all over it.

Why not put your name out there for the LSU job if you're Steele? Wouldn't you rather go there? Perhaps he and Chavis being close factored into that, I don't know.

I really don't think Clemson is a good job. They are going to be losing a lot of games over the next few years. I'm not sold on Swinney at all. Nor are many Clemson fans for that matter.

 

[NYYVol]

Well we know that Chavis wasn't going to be allowed to hire even one guy for his own staff. I wonder if that would enter into the decison for Steele. If I were Steele, I would be looking for the ideal position with the ideal school before I left Bama. Saban might get some of the credit for that defense, but it has Steele's markings all over it.

Why not put your name out there for the LSU job if you're Steele? Wouldn't you rather go there? Perhaps he and Chavis being close factored into that, I don't know.

I really don't think Clemson is a good job. They are going to be losing a lot of games over the next few years. I'm not sold on Swinney at all. Nor are many Clemson fans for that matter.

I'm not really all that sold on him either. But then again, that conference is so weak anything can happen.

I guess that's where we differ on...I see Clemson as a good job. SEC level money and SEC level fan base, without the rigors of the SEC.

 

[3L with debt]

Well we know that Chavis wasn't going to be allowed to hire even one guy for his own staff. I wonder if that would enter into the decison for Steele. If I were Steele, I would be looking for the ideal position with the ideal school before I left Bama. Saban might get some of the credit for that defense, but it has Steele's markings all over it.

Why not put your name out there for the LSU job if you're Steele? Wouldn't you rather go there? Perhaps he and Chavis being close factored into that, I don't know.

I really don't think Clemson is a good job. They are going to be losing a lot of games over the next few years. I'm not sold on Swinney at all. Nor are many Clemson fans for that matter.

I agree about CDS. That is why I think that it is a good move because the Clemson HC position may open up in a couple of years. Still, your point about the LSU position gives me pause because I think that HC position will open up soon as well. So my Clemson analysis will apply to LSU also.

The only way I can reconcile the two is that I would not want to be a new HC in the SEC with Saban and Meyer but this is thin.

 

[Sabanocchio]

I'm not really all that sold on him either. But then again, that conference is so weak anything can happen.

I guess that's where we differ on...I see Clemson as a good job. SEC level money and SEC level fan base, without the rigors of the SEC.

I wouldn't quite say SEC level money. Not top tier anyway. And true on the rigors of the SEC part, but it doesn't come with the Glory either.

 

[NYYVol]

I wouldn't quite say SEC level money. Not top tier anyway. And true on the rigors of the SEC part, but it doesn't come with the Glory either.

True it's not upper tier. But it isn't shabby either.

I'd leave my job for it...

 

[Sabanocchio]

I agree about CDS. That is why I think that it is a good move because the Clemson HC position may open up in a couple of years. Still, your point about the LSU position gives me pause because I think that HC position will open up soon as well. So my Clemson analysis will apply to LSU also.

The only way I can reconcile the two is that I would not want to be a new HC in the SEC with Saban and Meyer but this is thin.

I don't think Miles is going anywhere anytime soon. If he had a QB (And he did until the idiot screwed up every chance he got) he would have won several of the games he lost this year. Plus he is not only bringing in good classes, he's bringing in the best talent in the Nation. If Fulmer were bringing in that kind of talent, he would still be here.

 

[Voltrapnbama]

how do I spell douche...is that correct Saban? Go and look at my posts and count how many misspellings I've made and then come talk to me. One freaking mistake and you gotta be a tool bag...this is just a message board not the Times...that is my pet peave, not being rude or anything I just can't stand wankers.

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