Chris Petersen = Best head coach in college football

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Boise State is everything that's good about college football. A program built on hard work, dedication, and under the radar kids that were told they weren't big or fast enough. I like knowing this even more since Petersen is going to be there for a long time. With the program winning at the rate it is, and turning down jobs at USC, UCLA, Florida, Stanford, and others, he's building an unbelievable program.
 
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Derek Dooley is literally using the BSU blueprint (uh, Justin Wilcox anyone?).

Think Peterson coaching with SEC players. The anti-Georgia.
 
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Everyone thought last year was the year, but there's no doubt in my mind Petersen thinks of 2011 as the NC or bust season.
 
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VolInFlorida said:
Boise State is everything that's good about college football. A program built on hard work, dedication, and under the radar kids that were told they weren't big or fast enough. I like knowing this even more since Petersen is going to be there for a long time. With the program winning at the rate it is, and turning down jobs at USC, UCLA, Florida, Stanford, and others, he's building an unbelievable program.
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Boise's whole program is based on taking kids from California that are too academically sketchy to get into any of the Pac-10 schools. That's what Dan Hawkins started and Petersen's following suit. I think Petersen's a great football coach, obviously, but it would be interesting to see what he could do in a major conference without having as much leeway over the kids he takes. Presumably better than Hawkins.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Boise's whole program is based on taking kids from California that are too academically sketchy to get into any of the Pac-10 schools. That's what Dan Hawkins started and Petersen's following suit. I think Petersen's a great football coach, obviously, but it would be interesting to see what he could do in a major conference without having as much leeway over the kids he takes. Presumably better than Hawkins.
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Dan Hawkins started something good, but he never had Boise competing against great teams the way Peterson has. This is what's impressive: Opening games last few years...

2009: Beat Oregon
2010: Beat Va Tech
2011: Beat Georgia

They open up with a huge game and deliver. When you give him time to prepare, his team is ready.
 
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PennVol said:
Dan Hawkins started something good, but he never had Boise competing against great teams the way Peterson has. This is what's impressive: Opening games last few years...

2009: Beat Oregon
2010: Beat Va Tech
2011: Beat Georgia

They open up with a huge game and deliver. When you give him time to prepare, his team is ready.
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Not arguing that he's not a great football coach, just that he gets to take players that he'd never get to take if he played in a major conference. That's Boise's whole thing. It's impossible to answer the question "How would Boise do in a major conference?" because, if they were, then they'd be subject to the same academic requirements that major-conference teams are, and the main reason that all those out-of-state kids go to Idaho is because they don't have the grades to get into the big conference schools in their home states. If Boise were in a major conference then suddenly they wouldn't have any players anymore.

I need to see Petersen do it consistently in a major conference before I brand him the best coach in college football. Outcoaching Mark Richt really doesn't mean shat to me.
 
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Come on with this. This program has to prepare for 2 regular season games a year and one of them is always the first game of the season. This allows them to prepare for several weeks and gameplan appropriately and then play that dog of a schedule until maybe one other decent game. Then a bowl game with another 3-4 weeks of prep and they are donned a legit national contender program. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THEY COMPETE AT THIS LEVEL WEEK IN, WEEK OUT IN THE SEC...PERIOD. He is a good coach with a great system qb and smart players who know their role. But most of it is scheduling smoke and mirrors...
 
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I would pay money to see them go independent and schedule Oregon, alabama, and LSU. or even middle tier teams right now like Nebraska, Arkansas, SC, or USC. They would not go 7-3 in the SEC and would be lucky to go 8-2 in the pac 10 if they had to play USC and stanford right now.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Boise's whole program is based on taking kids from California that are too academically sketchy to get into any of the Pac-10 schools. That's what Dan Hawkins started and Petersen's following suit. I think Petersen's a great football coach, obviously, but it would be interesting to see what he could do in a major conference without having as much leeway over the kids he takes. Presumably better than Hawkins.
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Wrong. "Props" as they were called are no longer allowed in the NCAA.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Not arguing that he's not a great football coach, just that he gets to take players that he'd never get to take if he played in a major conference. That's Boise's whole thing. It's impossible to answer the question "How would Boise do in a major conference?" because, if they were, then they'd be subject to the same academic requirements that major-conference teams are, and the main reason that all those out-of-state kids go to Idaho is because they don't have the grades to get into the big conference schools in their home states. If Boise were in a major conference then suddenly they wouldn't have any players anymore.

I need to see Petersen do it consistently in a major conference before I brand him the best coach in college football. Outcoaching Mark Richt really doesn't mean shat to me.
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You're completely wrong and it's hilarious that you're ignorant to the NCAA rules regarding "Props." They haven't allowed Props in about ten years.
 
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VolInFlorida said:
You're completely wrong and it's hilarious that you're ignorant to the NCAA rules regarding "Props." They haven't allowed Props in about ten years.
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1) Look at Boise State's roster. Pay special attention to how many kids come from California.

2) Google up any of a thousand stories about how Boise could never be invited to join the Pac-10/12 because of academics.

3) Put two and two together.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
1) Look at Boise State's roster. Pay special attention to how many kids come from California.

2) Google up any of a thousand stories about how Boise could never be invited to join the Pac-10/12 because of academics.

3) Put two and two together.
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The NCAA has academic requirements for prospective athletes across the board and only schools like Stanford, UCLA, and a few others have higher requirements.



Boise State isn't in the Pac-12 because they've been a university for only 50 years. That doesn't mean they can suddenly take kids that don't have the NCAA requirements. It simply means they're a young university.



Academics does not equal athletics.
 
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PennVol said:
Dan Hawkins started something good, but he never had Boise competing against great teams the way Peterson has. This is what's impressive: Opening games last few years...

2009: Beat Oregon
2010: Beat Va Tech
2011: Beat Georgia

They open up with a huge game and deliver. When you give him time to prepare, his team is ready.
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He's a great coach, but those aren't 10 win SEC teams he's beat. VT also lost to James Madison in 2010.
 
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I hate to say it but Saban is the best coach in college football.
 
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VolInFlorida said:
The NCAA has academic requirements for prospective athletes across the board and only schools like Stanford, UCLA, and a few others have higher requirements.



Boise State isn't in the Pac-12 because they've been a university for only 50 years. That doesn't mean they can suddenly take kids that don't have the NCAA requirements. It simply means they're a young university.



Academics does not equal athletics.
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you're clearly lost.
 
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VolInFlorida said:
The NCAA has academic requirements for prospective athletes across the board and only schools like Stanford, UCLA, and a few others have higher requirements.



Boise State isn't in the Pac-12 because they've been a university for only 50 years. That doesn't mean they can suddenly take kids that don't have the NCAA requirements. It simply means they're a young university.



Academics does not equal athletics.
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i think you're confusing or blurring partial qualifiers, ncaa standards, and different eligibility standards between conferences. no, the ncaa doesn't allow partial qualifiers anymore and there are across the board standards, but different conferences do have contrasting standards. the larger conferences have tougher standards. boise gets players that cannot qualify under pac 12 standards for example. another example is that it's actually tougher to earn admittance into a sec school from junior college than, say, the big east (which ironically is regarded as a more "academically elite" conference than the sec.) ut lost out on a very high level pass rusher to uwv because of this very math requirement the sec requires for incoming jc players.
 
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JokermanVol said:
i think you're confusing or blurring partial qualifiers, ncaa standards, and different eligibility standards between conferences. no, the ncaa doesn't allow partial qualifiers anymore and there are across the board standards, but different conferences do have contrasting standards. the larger conferences have tougher standards. boise gets players that cannot qualify under pac 12 standards for example. another example is that it's actually tougher to earn admittance into a sec school from junior college than, say, the big east (which ironically is regarded as a more "academically elite" conference than the sec.) ut lost out on a very high level pass rusher to uwv because of this very math requirement the sec requires for incoming jc players.
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Who is uwv?
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As much as I hate saying it, Nick Saban is still the gold standard for college football coaches and that's not changing anytime soon.

But Petersen is definitely a top tier coach.
 
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Ya know, it's not hard to field a really good team when you've got 4 and 5 stars for days. Turning guys like Ryan Clady and Kyle Wilson into who they are is why people are high on Petersen.
 
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