cincy just iced the kicker without a time out

#27
#27
The penalty could not be declined because the whistle was blown before the snap. Just like a false start or delay of game, you can't decline it because there was no play.
 
#30
#30
I've always thought that 12 men on the field should be a live ball foul. If the other team plays with 12 men, but you still get a big play out of it, why shouldn't you be allowed to take the result of the play?
 
#33
#33
I didn't see it when it happened, but it sounds like it was a dead-ball penalty before the snap. If so, the whistle should (and may) have blown before the snap. It's not like they committed a penalty during the play. And, as another poster said, no one is going to "ice" a FG kicker by committing a pre-snap penalty to make the FG closer. Illegal substitution is pre snap. It's just unfortunate for Duke that the snap and kick still happened.
 
#34
#34
ukvols said:
I didn't see it when it happened, but it sounds like it was a dead-ball penalty before the snap. If so, the whistle should (and may) have blown before the snap. It's not like they committed a penalty during the play. And, as another poster said, no one is going to "ice" a FG kicker by committing a pre-snap penalty to make the FG closer. Illegal substitution is pre snap. It's just unfortunate for Duke that the snap and kick still happened.
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You have it right. The whistle blew before the snap, Duker either didn't hear it or decided to snap it anyway.
 
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