Civil Rights Icon John Lewis died tonight at 80 years old

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One of the last guys to ever have his skull beat and water cannoned on the same day . — John Lewis

RIP
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Both parties did that. There wasn't a good choice for him when he entered politics. He could join the party of Robert Byrd or he could join the party of Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms. He joined the party which had passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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No he didn’t. He joined the party of segregationists like Al Gore, Sr.
 
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MG1968 said:
No he didn’t. He joined the party of segregationists like Al Gore, Sr.
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Yes, he did. Who signed the Civil Rights Act into law? President Lyndon B. Johnson (a Democrat) on June 2, 1964. It was the most sweeping civil rights legislation since Reconstruction.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, he did. Who signed the Civil Rights Act into law? President Lyndon B. Johnson (a Democrat) on June 2, 1964. It was the most sweeping civil rights legislation since Reconstruction.
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When broken down by party, 61% of Democrats supported the Civil Rights Act, and 80% of Republicans supported it. LBJ may have signed it, but it had to get through Congress first.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who signed the bill into law? A Democratic Party President named Lyndon B. Johnson.
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What exactly did LBJ say about keeping the black vote ? Lewis joined the very party that had him beat on that bridge . I don’t really care I just find it odd .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who signed the bill into law? A Democratic Party President named Lyndon B. Johnson.
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So? Who filibustered the legislation? Nixon created the EPA and Teddy Roosevelt created the National Park Service. Presidents sign stuff over the objections of their party all the time.
 
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0nelilreb said:
What exactly did LBJ say about keeping the black vote ? Lewis joined the very party that had him beat on that bridge . I don’t really care I just find it odd .
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I always think it's funny when they tout LBJ considering how blatantly racist he was.
 
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Weezer said:
When broken down by party, 61% of Democrats supported the Civil Rights Act, and 80% of Republicans supported it. LBJ may have signed it, but it had to get through Congress first.
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Your point runs into a brick wall as a matter of public profile. The Republican Party nominee for President in 1964 was Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona. He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and he got his clock cleaned by LBJ (who signed it into law) that November.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Your point runs into a brick wall as a matter of public profile. The Republican Party nominee for President in 1964 was Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona. He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and he got his clock cleaned by LBJ (who signed it into law) that November.
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LBJ was also riding high on the lasting sympathy of the Kennedy assassination.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Your point runs into a brick wall as a matter of public profile. The Republican Party nominee for President in 1964 was Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona. He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and he got his clock cleaned by LBJ (who signed it into law) that November.
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Check the votes in Congress. Goldwater has nothing to do with it. Personally, I think it's great that a majority from both sides supported it, but the numbers are what they are. Not sure how you can argue them?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Your point runs into a brick wall as a matter of public profile. The Republican Party nominee for President in 1964 was Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona. He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and he got his clock cleaned by LBJ (who signed it into law) that November.
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And in 1968 the Silent Majority became fed up with the Great Society, democrat rioting and arson and looting, and elected Richard Milhous Nixon president.
 
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Weezer said:
Check the votes in Congress. Goldwater has nothing to do with it. Personally, I think it's great that a majority from both sides supported it, but the numbers are what they are. Not sure how you can argue them?
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I'm not arguing anything. I'm stating a fact. Sen. Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that LBJ signed into law. As the nominee for the Republican Party that year, he held a high profile. That was significant in turning blacks away from the Republican Party.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm not arguing anything. I'm stating a fact. Sen. Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that LBJ signed into law. As the nominee for the Republican Party that year, he held a high profile. That was significant in turning blacks away from the Republican Party.
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And given the overwhelming support of the bill by his party, we have no idea if Goldwater would have signed it into law if he had been elected or not. But he wasn't, so he has no place in the conversation other than being a deflection for numbers you apparently do not like. Hell, I'm not even attempting to take sides, I just gave you the numbers, and as I said previously, I think it's funny you're touting LBJ when his blatant racism was well known.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm not arguing anything. I'm stating a fact. Sen. Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that LBJ signed into law. As the nominee for the Republican Party that year, he held a high profile. That was significant in turning blacks away from the Republican Party.
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Goldwater voted in favor of the Civil Rights Act of 1957, and the 24th Amendment of the Constitution.

And as the years rolled by, Goldwater became more and more Liberal.
 
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In one of the best kept secrets in the history of DC politics, there was a meeting that took place. It happened over a lot of drinks and with long debate in the downstairs bar of the Old Ebbitt Grill.

The actual banter was odd the record and the details of the meeting are still shrouded in secrecy. All we know is at the end of the night there was a gentlemen’s agreement that the party would “switch sides”.

And now you know more of the story that so many Democrats like to repeat to this very day.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Can you cite even one racist comment that he expressed, or perhaps a bigoted action that he took? It's easy to call people names, but can you provide any evidence?

John Lewis had courage. Today's black youth think they have it tough. John Lewis is one of the reasons why they don't. Lewis was beaten by police just because he wanted to sit down and eat in the same restaurant where white people were eating. Lewis stood up for himself and others when it needed to be done. This was often at great risk to his own life.
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He was a racist who pushed that blacks get all the welfare and abortions for their community paid for by his government.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Both parties did that. There wasn't a good choice for him when he entered politics. He could join the party of Robert Byrd or he could join the party of Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms. He joined the party which had passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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It was the gop who passed the civil rights act
 
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happy-go_vol said:
It was the gop who passed the civil rights act
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Wrong. Democrats controlled both chambers of Congress in 1964 (the 88th Congress) and there was a Democratic Party President in LBJ, who signed the Civil Rights Act into law. Now, you can say that a higher percentage of Republicans voted in favor of the bill, but it still would have passed anyway... and it still needed to be signed - which it was, by a Democratic Party President.
 
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luthervol said:
He has been hated and vilified his entire life.
There are few alive today pathetic enough to say that what Lewis did in the 60's and 70's was not correct and admirable.
But there sure were millions during the 60's and 70's that said it. Those millions either died, progressed, or are properly shamed into silence.
That's the way it always works.
Forty years from now will be no different in it's views of the 2000's and 2010's.
That's the way it always works.
Lewis lived his entire life on the correct side of history.
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So, we’re finally gonna shut you up! I can’t wait.

It’s hillarious how you think you’re in the right side of history .
 
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