CJ Fuller is transferring from Clemson as a grad

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VolInDayton said:
Don't we have about 74 or 75 scholarship players? If so we can have 85. Why not just take 10 grad transfers who have 1 year left. We could use another running back.
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They count against a recruiting class regardless. Just a matter of which class they choose to take it out of. That's where the blue shirt comes in.
 
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KBVol said:
Boy, guess they didn’t run the ball at all last year. Gave their starting running back 7 carries in game 1, followed by 4, 10, 1, 4 and 2.

Either way, don’t want. Never had more than 11 carries in a single game last year, and averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career. Let’s pass on this kid.
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This is the second time I’ve read something like this in this thread.

You all do realize 4.1 per carry is good, right?
 
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Col_Cathcart said:
Huh. That seems like a very anti student-athlete policy which I guess shouldn't be surprising from the NCAA. Thanks for the info. :hi:
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Otoh, the "grad-transfer" rule is 99.9% pure loophole. The reason is for grad students to be able to get the proper degree offered elsewhere. Of course it is seized upon by almost every player as a loophole to xfer w/o sitting out a yr.

Example: How many here know what degree UT offered that flat out attracted James Daniel III from Baylor? Probably no one, because nobody cares. He's here for his bball career.

It cuts both ways.
 
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livefaith said:
Otoh, the "grad-transfer" rule is 99.9% pure loophole. The reason is for grad students to be able to get the proper degree offered elsewhere. Of course it is seized upon by almost every player as a loophole to xfer w/o sitting out a yr.

Example: How many here know what degree UT offered that flat out attracted James Daniel III from Baylor? Probably no one, because nobody cares. He's here for his bball career.

It cuts both ways.
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I thought he came from Howard University?:)
 
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Vol8188 said:
He would count against both. The only way around that is for a walk on who has been in the program for 2 years. Anyone else has to be counted towards a class. We may have the option of which class he counts against, but he must count towards one.
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Not true. Do your homework.
 
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The only rule addressing transfers with respect to initial counters:

15.5.6.3.8 Returning Two-Year Transfer. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who previously was an initial counter and who transferred to a two-year college shall not be an initial counter upon return to the original institution.
 
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3rdDegreeVol said:
The only rule addressing transfers with respect to initial counters:

15.5.6.3.8 Returning Two-Year Transfer. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete who previously was an initial counter and who transferred to a two-year college shall not be an initial counter upon return to the original institution.
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And everyone else counts. Everyone who hasn’t been at your institution for at least two years. That’s why we had 23 spots. Wiggins took one.
 
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He had the really good KR that help set up the game winning td against Bama in the championship game. He would have been the starter, but Etienne is so damn good. Feaster also gets lots of carries and so does Bryant.
 
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snowvols said:
He had the really good KR that help set up the game winning td against Bama in the championship game. He would have been the starter, but Etienne is so damn good. Feaster also gets lots of carries and so does Bryant.
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Kids a take all day long. Lot of talent. He and chandler would be a very formidable pair. Go get him and the DL Jabril Robinson
 
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KBVol said:
Boy, guess they didn’t run the ball at all last year. Gave their starting running back 7 carries in game 1, followed by 4, 10, 1, 4 and 2.

Either way, don’t want. Never had more than 11 carries in a single game last year, and averaged 4.1 yards per carry over his career. Let’s pass on this kid.
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Well with our current QB situation I think we will run the ball a lot this coming season. We could absolutely use another running back in the fold to take some of the load off Ty Chandler. Let me ask you this what do we do if Ty gets hurt 1st game? Then all of you will be calling for CJP's head that we didn't have enough RB's geez... this is the SEC and backs get hurt all the time, ask Nick Chubb.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
You all do realize 4.1 per carry is good, right?
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It's closer to mediocre than good. Subtracting sacks, ACC teams averaged 5.1 yards per rush last year. Fuller averaged 3.7 ypc last year while Clemson's top 2 RBs averaged 6.7 ypc.
 
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chatt-townVOL said:
This is the second time I’ve read something like this in this thread.

You all do realize 4.1 per carry is good, right?
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In college? No, it’s actually awful. For example, last year, 4.1 yards per carry would’ve put you 30th in the conference. Furthermore, the 100th best rusher in the nation last year in terms of yards per carry averaged 5.52 yards per attempt.

Perhaps you’re thinking NFL rushing numbers, where 4.1 yards per carry is pretty good/average. But even there, 4.1 yards per attempt landed a player at #20 in yards per attempt in 2017.

No, 4.1 yards per carry in college football is bad, is well below average, and certainly isn’t good enough, especially if you’re running behind an OL like Clemson’s the last 3 years. The only time you get a pass is in the situation that John Kelly was in last year, when he ran behind arguably the worst OL in the country and likely the worst OL in Tennessee football program history.
 
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JettVol said:
Well with our current QB situation I think we will run the ball a lot this coming season. We could absolutely use another running back in the fold to take some of the load off Ty Chandler. Let me ask you this what do we do if Ty gets hurt 1st game? Then all of you will be calling for CJP's head that we didn't have enough RB's geez... this is the SEC and backs get hurt all the time, ask Nick Chubb.
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If we need another running back (which I don’t think we do given we have Banks, CFA, Jordan and Coleman behind Chandler), then go get a good one....not a guy who barely averaged 4 yards per carry over 3 seasons running alongside one of the best QBs in college football history for 2 years and behind Clemson’s OL for all 3.

We actually have some good depth at running back, but if you want another one, go get a good one, not this slappy....jeez.
 
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JettVol said:
Well with our current QB situation I think we will run the ball a lot this coming season. We could absolutely use another running back in the fold to take some of the load off Ty Chandler. Let me ask you this what do we do if Ty gets hurt 1st game? Then all of you will be calling for CJP's head that we didn't have enough RB's geez... this is the SEC and backs get hurt all the time, ask Nick Chubb.
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our OL is garbage so im not sure how well we will run it.
 
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KBVol said:
In college? No, it’s actually awful. For example, last year, 4.1 yards per carry would’ve put you 30th in the conference. Furthermore, the 100th best rusher in the nation last year in terms of yards per carry averaged 5.52 yards per attempt.

Perhaps you’re thinking NFL rushing numbers, where 4.1 yards per carry is pretty good/average. But even there, 4.1 yards per attempt landed a player at #20 in yards per attempt in 2017.

No, 4.1 yards per carry in college football is bad, is well below average, and certainly isn’t good enough, especially if you’re running behind an OL like Clemson’s the last 3 years. The only time you get a pass is in the situation that John Kelly was in last year, when he ran behind arguably the worst OL in the country and likely the worst OL in Tennessee football program history.
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4.1 in the NFL will put you in the Ezekiel Elliot category.

4.0 will get you in the Le'Veon Bell and LeSean McCoy category.

3.9 will get you Melvin Gordon and Leonard Fornette

Thats what pretty good/average will get you in the NFL.

You are probably right about CFB though. I didn't look it up.
 
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