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loggervol said:
He’s been saying the same thing when anyone’s asked about it. Did you expect him not to give the same answer?
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I had never heard Trump say that Raffensperger "owed" him votes before. That demonstrates an epic level of narcissism right there. It is disturbing to hear that from someone who was the President of the United States. The threat Trump posed to the democratic system of elections in the United States was real - not imagined. It's something which should be discussed, now that he is running for President again. Trump is dangerously egocentric. There are no boundaries that he won't cross in order to protect his ego.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I had never heard Trump say that Raffensperger "owed" him votes before. That demonstrates an epic level of narcissism right there. It is disturbing to hear that from someone who was the President of the United States. The threat Trump posed to the democratic system of elections in the United States was real - not imagined. It's something which should be discussed, now that he is running for President again. Trump is dangerously egocentric. There are no boundaries that he won't cross in order to protect his ego.
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I really can’t remember if he’s said that before or not but he believes it was an unfair election. And, they asked him about the call.
 
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loggervol said:
May be, but it’s better than the alternative. The whole government is a train wreck at the moment.
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I'm pretty sure he was saying that we will end up with 4 more years of Biden ... and that's at least in part, because of the Republican Party's insistence on nominating someone, who Biden has already beaten once.
 
#457
#457
loggervol said:
I really can’t remember if he’s said that before or not but he believes it was an unfair election. And, they asked him about the call.
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There is no defending the logic behind "He owed me votes." That was despicable .... and it reveals a threat to democracy.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm pretty sure he was saying that we will end up with 4 more years of Biden ... and that's at least in part, because of the Republican Party's insistence on nominating someone, who Biden has already beaten once.
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I understood what he said. I just can’t believe that democrats are ok with the current administration.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm pretty sure he was saying that we will end up with 4 more years of Biden ... and that's at least in part, because of the Republican Party's insistence on nominating someone, who Biden has already beaten once.
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Why won’t the Democrats nominate someone else? Why not nominate someone who isn’t demented?

All of the Democrats I know tell me they voted for Biden because of Trump. I personally only know 1 who admits to liking Joe Biden. Seems like a perfect time to switch horses.
 
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loggervol said:
It’s despicable that election laws were changed also.
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This was blatant red herring, but I will respond to it anyway.

That matter was fully adjudicated in our court system, and it was ruled that no laws were violated.

State court rulings did not deem 2020 election ‘illegal’

PolitiFact - Steve Scalise’s flawed argument that states didn’t follow their own election laws

Considering Trump's "alternate elector scheme" post-election ... I find it quite amusing that Republicans feel like they have the high ground to discuss not following the Constitution ... You don't.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Why won’t the Democrats nominate someone else? Why not nominate someone who isn’t demented?

All of the Democrats I know tell me they voted for Biden because of Trump. I personally only know 1 who admits to liking Joe Biden. Seems like a perfect time to switch horses.
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Sure ... but to switch nominees away from the incumbent President is rare ... I think Teddy Roosevelt/ William Howard Taft was when it last happened - over 100 years ago.

... and in all honesty, it doesn't matter who the Democratic Party nominated, in these tribal times, Republicans would still nominate Trump ... and vote for him in the general election. To contend otherwise, would be dishonest.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This was blatant red herring, but I will respond to it anyway.

That matter was fully adjudicated in our court system, and it was ruled that no laws were violated.

State court rulings did not deem 2020 election ‘illegal’

PolitiFact - Steve Scalise’s flawed argument that states didn’t follow their own election laws

Considering Trump's "alternate elector scheme" post-election ... I find it quite amusing that Republicans feel like they have the high ground to discuss not following the Constitution ... You don't.
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Ok, tell yourself what ever makes you feel good. It wasn’t constitutional but I’m not arguing election law. They just got away with it.
 
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loggervol said:
I understood what he said. I just can’t believe that democrats are ok with the current administration.
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Who says that we are? I wish Biden would step aside ... but I'm damn sure never voting for Donald Trump. I think that is the same sentiment that most Democrats have. Trump is a threat to the democratic system of elections in this country.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Sure ... but to switch nominees away from the incumbent President is rare ... I think Teddy Roosevelt/ William Howard Taft was when it last happened - over 100 years ago.

... and in all honesty, it doesn't matter who the Democratic Party nominated, in these tribal times, Republicans would still nominate Trump ... and vote for him in the general election. To contend otherwise, would be dishonest.
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How do you go on and on about the horrors of Trump while being satisfied with Joe Biden?
 
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loggervol said:
Ok, tell yourself what ever makes you feel good. It wasn’t constitutional but I’m not arguing election law. They just got away with it.
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Read the articles ... It was Constitutional. You don't know what you are talking about. You have sour grapes over Trump losing.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who says that we are? I wish Biden would step aside ... but I'm damn sure never voting for Donald Trump. I think that is the same sentiment that most Democrats have. Trump is a threat to the democratic system of elections in this country.
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You are if you nominate Biden again. That’s exactly what it means.
 
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DC_Vol said:
How do you go on and on about the horrors of Trump while being satisfied with Joe Biden?
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Who the hell said I was satisfied with Biden? For the 3rd time now, I wish he would step aside ... but that doesn't mean that I'm going to vote for Trump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I had never heard Trump say that Raffensperger "owed" him votes before. That demonstrates an epic level of narcissism right there. It is disturbing to hear that from someone who was the President of the United States. The threat Trump posed to the democratic system of elections in the United States was real - not imagined. It's something which should be discussed, now that he is running for President again. Trump is dangerously egocentric. There are no boundaries that he won't cross in order to protect his ego.
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Except Trump was and is all talk. Dems are the ones that had a cabal of big tech, MSM media and others to oust Trump. Dems are the ones who created a fake dossier to try and keep Trump out and then get him out. There are absolutely no boundaries Dems wouldn’t cross to take Trump down. They’ve done all but assassinate the man. If he somehow wins again I wouldn’t be shocked to see an attempt.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who says that we are? I wish Biden would step aside ... but I'm damn sure never voting for Donald Trump. I think that is the same sentiment that most Democrats have. Trump is a threat to the democratic system of elections in this country.
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We are in the same boat then. I will vote policies first, If we only have 2 candidates. And, no one is beating trump on the republican side.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who the hell said I was satisfied with Biden? For the 3rd time now, I wish he would step aside ... but that doesn't mean that I'm going to vote for Trump.
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I don’t see you incessantly bitching about Joe Biden. I haven’t seen you talk about the possibility of someone else.

If a dolt like Joe Biden can thump Trump, surely a better candidate from the party would win even more votes, right?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Who the hell said I was satisfied with Biden? For the 3rd time now, I wish he would step aside ... but that doesn't mean that I'm going to vote for Trump.
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If he gets the nomination again, then can i not infer the party is satisfied with him?
 
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