Coach O to join the Chizik Club.

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2 years after winning the national championship at Auburn, Gene Chizik was fired after a 3-9 season that included a 49-0 loss to Bama. Coach O of LSU is following a similar path. LSU fans are even crazier than the Vol faithful ( and Auburn fans) and they are furious at the way the mighty Tigers are playing this year. When a team loses 14 of its best players to the NFL in one year, there is going to be a dramatic drop off ( Alabama may be an exception.) If they ,(LSU) lose 6 or more games this year, coach O is a dead man walking . This league is the ultimate what have done you done lately for me organization. From the penthouse to the outhouse in a short time.
 
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He's got next year to turn it around. However LSU has always made oddball coaching decisions. How about hiring that coaching genius at Vanderbilt, Gerry Dinardo, away from them and bringing him to LSU? I rest my case. Coach O has next season to turn it around although his seat does start out warm no doubt.
 
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Remy said:
He's got next year to turn it around. However LSU has always made oddball coaching decisions. How about hiring that coaching genius at Vanderbilt, Gerry Dinardo, away from them and bringing him to LSU? I rest my case. Coach O has next season to turn it around although his seat does start out warm no doubt.
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With all the talent in that state, players should not be a problem. His offensive guru left too o join the Carolina Panthers. That hurt as well.
 
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They lost 9 starters from their 2019 championship team, including a generational talent at QB. Dave Aranda and Joe Brady went on to well-deserved promotions, and were replaced with Bo Pelini and Scott Linehan

No QB was going to fill the shoes of Burrow, and Bo Pelini is decades past his prime as a DC. It's obvious now that Ensminger wasn't as responsible for the offensive game plan as Joe Brady, and Scott Linehan is one of those fools that always fails his way into a new job, and is not a replacement for Brady.
 
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I don''t think anyone was responsible for LSU being good but Joe Burrow himself... He was already a seasoned product when he transferred to LSU. All he needed was the weapons around him.
 
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orange blossom said:
I don''t think anyone was responsible for LSU being good but Joe Burrow himself... He was already a seasoned product when he transferred to LSU. All he needed was the weapons around him.
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Couldn’t disagree more with that take.

Joe Burrow was above average in 2018, with those same weapons around him, then blossomed into a star in 2019.

You have to give credit to LSU’s coaching staff for Burrow’s development.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Joe Burrow was above average in 2018, with those same weapons around him, then blossomed into a star in 2019.

You have to give credit to LSU’s coaching staff for Burrow’s development.
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Between the end of 2018 and the start of the 2019 season, LSU retooled their offense around Burrow.

The people’s guide to Joe Burrow
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Couldn’t disagree more with that take.

Joe Burrow was above average in 2018, with those same weapons around him, then blossomed into a star in 2019.

You have to give credit to LSU’s coaching staff for Burrow’s development.
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Burrow was/is a stud. He showed that today. He’s already light years ahead of Tanneyhill.
 
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JACK8254 said:
2 years after winning the national championship at Auburn, Gene Chizik was fired after a 3-9 season that included a 49-0 loss to Bama. Coach O of LSU is following a similar path. LSU fans are even crazier than the Vol faithful ( and Auburn fans) and they are furious at the way the mighty Tigers are playing this year. When a team loses 14 of its best players to the NFL in one year, there is going to be a dramatic drop off ( Alabama may be an exception.) If they ,(LSU) lose 6 or more games this year, coach O is a dead man walking . This league is the ultimate what have done you done lately for me organization. From the penthouse to the outhouse in a short time.
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Depends on the buyout.

Edit: Coach O’s buyout is 23.85m as of 12/1/20. Almost double Pruitt’s buyout.
 
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Remy said:
He's got next year to turn it around. However LSU has always made oddball coaching decisions. How about hiring that coaching genius at Vanderbilt, Gerry Dinardo, away from them and bringing him to LSU? I rest my case. Coach O has next season to turn it around although his seat does start out warm no doubt.
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His seat is only warm with some of their most crazed fans. His buyout is quite large (70% of any remaining salary at the time of the buyout) and the people that make the decisions there are more than willing to give him a mulligan on this season. They shouldn't be this bad, but people will give him a pass.

Having said that, he might be tapped on the shoulder about retooling his staff. Pelini is a total, unmitigated disaster and Ensminger was kind of like an OC in name only (Brady was the one responsible for their offensive turnaround last year).
 
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Two things here besides Joe Burrow having an off the charts year. That LSU team last year had so much talent that O couldn’t screw it up. They’ve come back to earth this year. Second issue is that he hired Bo Pellini. Overrated coach if there ever was one and that defense is showing it.
 
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JACK8254 said:
2 years after winning the national championship at Auburn, Gene Chizik was fired after a 3-9 season that included a 49-0 loss to Bama. Coach O of LSU is following a similar path. LSU fans are even crazier than the Vol faithful ( and Auburn fans) and they are furious at the way the mighty Tigers are playing this year. When a team loses 14 of its best players to the NFL in one year, there is going to be a dramatic drop off ( Alabama may be an exception.) If they ,(LSU) lose 6 or more games this year, coach O is a dead man walking . This league is the ultimate what have done you done lately for me organization. From the penthouse to the outhouse in a short time.
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Orgeron is a good recruiter, but not a good x's and o's coach (not even average at that). the one thing he did well previously is have good coordinators in Brady and Aranda. Ensminger and Bo Pelini are terrible and we will see if coach O does fire them, who he replaces them with. That will determine his future.
 
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orange blossom said:
I don''t think anyone was responsible for LSU being good but Joe Burrow himself... He was already a seasoned product when he transferred to LSU. All he needed was the weapons around him.
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The team was loaded. A perfect storm of talent maturing with great coaching.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Couldn’t disagree more with that take.

Joe Burrow was above average in 2018, with those same weapons around him, then blossomed into a star in 2019.

You have to give credit to LSU’s coaching staff for Burrow’s development.
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Agree.

The talent was there but LSU has rarely lacked talent recently. The whole thing had to be put together and then held together for an entire season. Brady was as important off a "co" coordinator hire as there was made for just a short time. And thats not to take away from O, he kept them dialed in and focused on the task every week.

Next year will be the year IMO. If LSU takes some of these young guys and starts developing again they will be fine. Brady may be the link thats holds them back from getting back tho. Its just not certain that they are gonna be fine without him. Where they are at the end of next year will tell a lot.
 
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Roustabout said:
Burrow was/is a stud. He showed that today. He’s already light years ahead of Tanneyhill.
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Who isn't. The fact the titans thought Tanneyhill was the long term answer doesn't bode well for their talent finders.
 
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GVF said:
Who isn't. The fact the titans thought Tanneyhill was the long term answer doesn't bode well for their talent finders.
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Tanneyhill should have the easiest job in the NFL with that running game. Threw a damn pick in the end zone Sunday.
 
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Roustabout said:
Tanneyhill should have the easiest job in the NFL with that running game. Threw a damn pick in the end zone Sunday.
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Yeah. His woes in Miami was not all on the dolphins organization. He was wildly erratic with only occasional flashes of potential. And yes, the running game stable of the Titans should make for an easier passing game. Mariota had his issues, but I'd have tried to work them out another year or two before giving him up for Tannehill. And the QB Mariota replaced probably had more upside than Tannehill.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Agree.

The talent was there but LSU has rarely lacked talent recently. The whole thing had to be put together and then held together for an entire season. Brady was as important off a "co" coordinator hire as there was made for just a short time. And thats not to take away from O, he kept them dialed in and focused on the task every week.

Next year will be the year IMO. If LSU takes some of these young guys and starts developing again they will be fine. Brady may be the link thats holds them back from getting back tho. Its just not certain that they are gonna be fine without him. Where they are at the end of next year will tell a lot.
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This was not the year. The perfect opposite storm. Pelini, roster depletion of some 24 players between draft and opting out for virus, and QB going down, And Brady leaving. Only Bama can survive that kind of storm.
 
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GVF said:
This was not the year. The perfect opposite storm. Pelini, roster depletion of some 24 players between draft and opting out for virus, and QB going down, And Brady leaving. Only Bama can survive that kind of storm.
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The year I'm refrencing is the one that tells you they are gonna be fine in the long run without Brady.
Too early to tell for sure but its questionable at the moment.
It will be more clear next year.
 
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I'm certainly curious about that too, I agree. I never played quarterback. I just know that Burrow was not going to play at OSU and then won the Heisman by a huge margin. I think he's best I've ever seen. So who gets the credit for that? Burrow has to have some of it, but somehow he didn't chose to be like that at OSU.
 
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