Coach Rankings

[SergeantVol]

Butch never won the Big East outright. There were 4 teams with a 5-2 conf. record this past year, and 3 teams the year before.

Going to the Rose Bowl at Wisconsin is more impressive than a 4 way tie for the Big East (sans WVU).

Due to a penalized tOSU. Winning BIG 10= winning BIG East IMO

 

[chattavol420]

Those are all the SEC coaches.

I immediately edited. I'm still celebrating the holiday. Seeing beilema and stoops threw me off a little

 

[Vol4life25]

I was replying to a post made about Bielema, not Sumlin (who beat Bama) or Franklin (who beat a crappy UT team). Try to keep up.

And I was responding to your response about his "shared titles."

And I'll try to keep up....it's hard though with all that knowledge flowing from your keyboard........















Lawl

 

[Aesius]

Give it 5 years. Butch will be in the top 10 guaranteed once he has UT rolling again.

 

[KBVol]

Well, if you use that logic, then Dooley is above Franklin.

Remember, Franklin was only a OC at Maryland. This is his first gig as HC.

No. Dooley was 1-1 vs the snakehead. Wouldn't using that logic be that they're even?

 

[KBVol]

Butch never won the Big East outright. There were 4 teams with a 5-2 conf. record this past year, and 3 teams the year before.

Going to the Rose Bowl at Wisconsin is more impressive than a 4 way tie for the Big East (sans WVU).

He backed into the Rose Bowl last year. Won all of 8 games with a loss in said Rosé Bowl. Not very impressive. Won 2/3 the games that OSU won.

 

[Boca Vol]

He backed into the Rose Bowl last year. Won all of 8 games with a loss in said Rosé Bowl. Not very impressive. Won 2/3 the games that OSU won.

Are you referring to "backing in" by hanging 70 on Nebraska?

You're correct that in a "normal year" Wisconsin doesn't make it to the Big 10 CG. But they made the most of their opportunity.

Cincy won 10 games with their best win again Syracuse and lost to Toledo. Is that more impressive?

 

[immyaxl]

I honestly believe that Dooley had enough talent on that team to beat vandy by 20. We barely pulled that one out though. Cinci had similar talent to vandy and Butch slapped him all over the field. But, to your comment, then yes, logic would dictate that response.

By slapped all over the field you mean winning A bowl game by 7 points? Dooley really dominated him with that OT 7 point victory.

 

[thebjd]

No. Dooley was 1-1 vs the snakehead. Wouldn't using that logic be that they're even?

His point was that Dooley beat Butch. As for as the OP and the ranking I can't think of five coaches better than Spurrier. Outside of the bowl game last year I thought Muschamp did a great job. His teams always responded in the second half and the defense shut the door on teams nearly every game after halftime. The list seems about right.

 

[Boca Vol]

His point was that Dooley beat Butch. As for as the OP and the ranking I can't think of five coaches better than Spurrier. Outside of the bowl game last year I thought Muschamp did a great job. His teams always responded in the second half and the defense shut the door on teams nearly every game after halftime. The list seems about right.

Regarding Spurrier I'm pretty sure his age dropped him a few spots. We see what he does at South Carolina but he's in a conference with UGA, UF, Bama, LSU....and most of the time UT and Auburn. Easy to get lost in the shuffle with that group unless you have a truly breakout year.

 

[KBVol]

Are you referring to "backing in" by hanging 70 on Nebraska?

You're correct that in a "normal year" Wisconsin doesn't make it to the Big 10 CG. But they made the most of their opportunity.

Cincy won 10 games with their best win again Syracuse and lost to Toledo. Is that more impressive?

Ok, dude you just like to argue. I'm saying Wisconsin backed into the RoseBowl cause they finished 3rd in their division of the Big 10, behind 2 ineligible teams.... Ohio State and Penn State. You, being a college football fan, surely knew this....right? OSU was 8-0, PSU 6-2 and Wisconsin 4-4. That my friend is the textbook definition of backing into the Big 10 championship game and the Rose Bowl. Yes they beat Nebraska but they never would've been there in a normal year.

 

[Boca Vol]

Ok, dude you just like to argue. I'm saying Wisconsin backed into the RoseBowl cause they finished 3rd in their division of the Big 10, behind 2 ineligible teams.... Ohio State and Penn State. You, being a college football fan, surely knew this....right? OSU was 8-0, PSU 6-2 and Wisconsin 4-4. That my friend is the textbook definition of backing into the Big 10 championship game and the Rose Bowl. Yes they beat Nebraska but they never would've been there in a normal year.

Did I not say that? Who's the one that likes to argue? They may have backed into the Big 10 CG, but they made the most of their opportunity and won the game.

 

[KBVol]

Did I not say that? Who's the one that likes to argue? They may have backed into the Big 10 CG, but they made the most of their opportunity and won the game.

The point about them backing into the CG game and Rose Bowl was obvious, no need to even argue against the point IMO ... completely INARGUABLE. I find it a little ironic and odd that you argue on behalf of Bielema Wisconsin here but against CBJs shared titles at Cincy. Why?

 

[Boca Vol]

The point about them backing into the CG game and Rose Bowl was obvious, no need to even argue against the point IMO ... completely INARGUABLE. I find it a little ironic and odd that you argue on behalf of Bielema Wisconsin here but against CBJs shared titles at Cincy. Why?

You can say they backed into the Big 10 CG, I agree. However, how can you say they backed into the Rose Bowl? They won the Big 10 CG! CONVINCINGLY!!!!

Had Nebraska won the game but declined thus leaving Wisconsin as default....THAT would be backing in. Your logic is severely flawed in this case.

What is ironic about Bielema's season being more impressive than Jones' season? Hanging 70 on Nebraska is more impressive than beating Va Tech and Syracuse (which were the highlights of Cincy's season last year).

 

[KBVol]

You can say they backed into the Big 10 CG, I agree. However, how can you say they backed into the Rose Bowl? They won the Big 10 CG! CONVINCINGLY!!!!

Had Nebraska won the game but declined thus leaving Wisconsin as default....THAT would be backing in. Your logic is severely flawed in this case.

What is ironic about Bielema's season being more impressive than Jones' season? Hanging 70 on Nebraska is more impressive than beating Va Tech and Syracuse (which were the highlights of Cincy's season last year).

They never wouldve/should've been in the Big East CG vs. Nebraska given the circumstances to begin with. That's my point. Yes they took advantage of the opportunity...one they never should've had. It's a timeline thing. They never earned the right to even play for the opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl.

Again, they only got there because of the ineligibity of 2 better teams in OSU and Penn State. You finally say you agree.... yet you've been continuing this argument because you've been arguing that their trip to the Rosé Bowl was legit because they won a game they never should've even played in. Huh?

What's ironic is you're supposed to be a Vol fan and by default a fan of our coach. Yet you argue against his success at Cincy by saying he never won anything outright, that his success wasn't impressive when he shared conference CHAMPIONSHIP TITLES. Yet you fight to the death for Wisconsin's and Bielema's "legitimate" Rose Bowl appearance and eventual loss when they finished THIRD in their own division with a .500 record. That my friend is ironic.

 

[Boca Vol]

They never wouldve/should've been in the Big East CG vs. Nebraska given the circumstances to begin with. That's my point. Yes they took advantage of the opportunity...one they never should've had. It's a timeline thing. They never earned the right to even play for the opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl.

Again, they only got there because of the ineligibity of 2 better teams in OSU and Penn State. You finally say you agree.... yet you've been continuing this argument because you've been arguing that their trip to the Rosé Bowl was legit because they won a game they never should've even played in. Huh?

Let's see, I agreed last night in a "normal year" they wouldn't have been in the Big 10 CG. There's nothing "finally" about that.

Should Wisconsin have declined the trip the Big 10 CG? The winner of the Big 10 CG gets the automatic bid to the Rose Bowl. They won the game. End of story

What's ironic is you're supposed to be a Vol fan and by default a fan of our coach. Yet you argue against his success at Cincy by saying he never won anything outright, that his success wasn't impressive when he shared conference CHAMPIONSHIP TITLES. Yet you fight to the death for Wisconsin's and Bielema's "legitimate" Rose Bowl appearance and eventual loss when they finished THIRD in their own division with a .500 record. That my friend is ironic.

Fight to death??? Really? You're reaching a bit!

How many Vol fans were all in on Dooley?

Yes, I'm a Vol fan. Was born in East TN, grew up in Lenoir City, and graduated from UT. I'm a fan of Butch Jones, I think he's a great asset to UT. However, what did he accomplish at Cincy that was so great? A 4-way tie with Louisville, Rutgers, and Syracuse. Plus, they lost to Toledo. The original question from the other poster was comparing Jones' accomplishments/ resume to Bielema's.

It's really a Big 10 vs. Big East thing.

 

[KBVol]

Fight to death??? Really? You're reaching a bit!

Yes, I'm a Vol fan. Was born in East TN, grew up in Lenoir City, and graduated from UT. I'm a fan of Butch Jones, I think he's a great asset to UT. However, what did he accomplish at Cincy that was so great? A 4-way tie with Louisville, Rutgers, and Syracuse. Plus, they lost to Toledo. The original question from the other poster was comparing Jones' accomplishments/ resume to Bielema's.

It's really a Big 10 vs. Big East thing.

Agree to disagree. You think Butch was pretty much a failure with no accomplishments at Cincy and I assume Central Michigan as well. No? I think the fact that he put up back to back 10 win seasons, 2 straight bowl games, 2 shared big east conference titles means something.... he beat an overwhelming majority of similar teams with similar talent 2/3 of the time, including a 2-1 record vs Charlie Strong. Again, agree to disagree. Done with this.