Coaching Matchups

[hatvol96]

In UT's 12 regular season games, how many do you see UT holding the coaching advantage?

 

[therealUT]

AF
UF
Marsh.
Mem.
Bama
LSU
Ark.
Vandy
UK

I have yet to be impressed with Urban Meyer.

 

[VolinArizona]

Advantage over:
Cal
AF
Marshall
Alabama
Vandy
Kentucky

Even:
UF
LSU
Arkansas
Memphis

Disadvantage:
South Carolina
Georgia

 

[Lexvol]

I only see two staffs that the Vols will clearly out coach. Those are Kentucky and Air Force.

 

[Jasongivm6]

Advantage over:
Cal
AF
Marshall
Alabama
Vandy
Kentucky

Even:
UF
LSU
Arkansas
Memphis

Disadvantage:
South Carolina
Georgia

And the whole country is raving about Tedford.

 

[VolinArizona]

And the whole country is raving about Tedford.

Yeah, I like him, but besides producing mediocre NFL QBs, he's won 2 important games.

 

[hatvol96]

And the whole country is raving about Tedford.

The people raving about Tedford are comparable to the mental giants who were saying Oasis would be bigger than The Beatles. They think it makes them cool and smart to hype "The Next Big Thing."

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Advantage over:
Cal
AF
Marshall
Alabama
Vandy
Kentucky

Even:
UF
LSU
Arkansas
Memphis

Disadvantage:
South Carolina
Georgia

ditto

 

[utvolpj]

The people raving about Tedford are comparable to the mental giants who were saying Oasis would be bigger than The Beatles. They think it makes them cool and smart to hype "The Next Big Thing."

Reminds me of a Will Farrell SNL skit I saw. :birgits_giggle:

 

[jakez4ut]

AF
MAR
MEM
BAMA
LSU
ARK
Vandy
KY

Tedford is a good coach, UM and Spurrier and Richt have proven their worth thus far against Fulmer

 

[kptvol]

AF
MAR
MEM
BAMA
LSU
ARK
Vandy
KY

Tedford is a good coach, UM and Spurrier and Richt have proven their worth thus far against Fulmer

Urban Meyer has only beaten Fulmer once. That victory was almost completely given to him by our special teams miscues. I think Meyer still has to win another game or two before he can claim to have proven himself against Fulmer on the field.

 

[jakez4ut]

Urban Meyer has only beaten Fulmer once. That victory was almost completely given to him by our special teams miscues. I think Meyer still has to win another game or two before he can claim to have proven himself against Fulmer on the field.

i would argue that that alone is reason enough to say that CPF has already been outcoached by UM in the early stages of their yearly matchup....

it's really hard for me to say that a coach that has not beaten another one has a leg up in coaching against that guy....

 

[WA_Vol]

I only see two staffs that the Vols will clearly out coach. Those are Kentucky and Air Force.

I think thats sums up how I feel. I would add Alabama, Memphis (do we play them?), and Vandy. Arkansas is probably a wash at this point.

 

[jakez4ut]

I think thats sums up how I feel. I would add Alabama, Memphis (do we play them?), and Vandy. Arkansas is probably a wash at this point.

yeah, we play Memphis...

 

[WA_Vol]

i would argue that that alone is reason enough to say that CPF has already been outcoached by UM in the early stages of their yearly matchup....

it's really hard for me to say that a coach that has not beaten another one has a leg up in coaching against that guy....

I can't envision Fulmer ever accomplishing what Meyer did at Utah. I give the edge to Meyer at this point.

 

[jakez4ut]

I can't envision Fulmer ever accomplishing what Meyer did at Utah. I give the edge to Meyer at this point.

i would agree with this too....and the old addage that ST is all coaching, i believe that, and the fact that our special teams was a big factor in our losing that game last year, and that UF's capitalization on ST was a big reason they won, tells me all i need to know about who out coached who thus far...

now this could change...UM has a bunch of hype surrounding hime these days, he's got thre recruits coming in in droves, so talent shouldn't be an issue....should we start beating them a little more regularly, i would definitely switch my vote around on this matchup....but time will tell the rest of that story.

 

[jakez4ut]

I can't envision Fulmer ever accomplishing what Meyer did at Utah. I give the edge to Meyer at this point.

one other point here, i don't think Fulmer has to do what Meyer did at Utah to prove his worth or anything like that, so i don't necessarily hold that against him or favor meyer for it....just agree that fulmer probalby couldn't do it at a school like Utah.

Fulmer is where he's supposed to be, bottom line....

 

[VolinArizona]

Tommy West has outcoached CPF more than Meyer. I hope you see why.

 

[jakez4ut]

Tommy West has outcoached CPF more than Meyer. I hope you see why.

enlighten me, please....

 

[GAVol]

These threads are always kind of funny. The grass always looks greener on the other side.

Yesterday I read an article that pondered whether the UGA offense could flourish with Richt calling the plays. Tonight I'm in South GA and just saw a station out of Jacksonville where they were discussing the fact that the jury is still out on Urban Meyer.

 

[jakez4ut]

These threads are always kind of funny. The grass always looks greener on the other side.
Yesterday I read an article that pondered whether the UGA offense could flourish with Richt calling the plays. Tonight I'm in South GA and just saw a station out of Jacksonville where they were discussing the fact that the jury is still out on Urban Meyer.

very true, very true....

 

[VolinArizona]

enlighten me, please....

If I need to explain it, you won't agree anyway. I think it's pretty clear why Tommy West has outcoached Fulmer more than Meyer.

 

[jakez4ut]

If I need to explain it, you won't agree anyway. I think it's pretty clear why Tommy West has outcoached Fulmer more than Meyer.

more than Fulmer has out coached meyer....? it's not clear to me. West has never beaten Fulmer...so how does that constitute him out coaching Fulmer...? i'm curious as to your thought process.

 

[VolinArizona]

more than Fulmer has out coached meyer....? it's not clear to me. West has never beaten Fulmer...so how does that constitute him out coaching Fulmer...? i'm curious as to your thought process.

Meyer didn't outcoach Fulmer, IMO. The best way I can state this is that UF has AMAZING talent and Florida beat our good talent. Memphis has little talent, and ALMOST beat our good talent. West doing what he did last year to UT (4 point loss) is a great coaching achievement in my book than Meyer taking someone else's GREAT TALENT and scoring 16 points (the same Memphis scored).

Ugh, that still sounds confusing. West taking Memphis to a 4 point loss to UT is a tougher task than taking Florida to a 9 point win in Gainesville over UT.

 

[jakez4ut]

Meyer didn't outcoach Fulmer, IMO. The best way I can state this is that UF has AMAZING talent and Florida beat our good talent. Memphis has little talent, and ALMOST beat our good talent. West doing what he did last year to UT (4 point loss) is a great coaching achievement in my book than Meyer taking someone else's GREAT TALENT and scoring 16 points (the same Memphis scored).

Ugh, that still sounds confusing. West taking Memphis to a 4 point loss to UT is a tougher task than taking Florida to a 9 point win in Gainesville over UT.

OK, i see what you are trying to say, and there is some merit to it...but it's still hard for me to say that a coach that got beat out coached the one that won the game.

Especially when you consider the ST fiasco we had against Florida....ST is all coaching, and we stank it up in that department against Florida...so i'll give that Meyer...another thing to put in Meyer's cap is that, that was his first real SEC game against one of, if not the, biggest division rival, who is coached by the dean of SEC coaches....you would think that CPF would have a huge advantage over the rookie HC in that game....yet we still lost...

as for memphis, your point is more valid given the supposed talent difference, and considering D Williams, their best player, didn't play and they were still in that game late, i would give your arguement for West more credibility....