Coaching Matchups

#26
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(GAVol @ Aug 10 said:
These threads are always kind of funny. The grass always looks greener on the other side.

Yesterday I read an article that pondered whether the UGA offense could flourish with Richt calling the plays. Tonight I'm in South GA and just saw a station out of Jacksonville where they were discussing the fact that the jury is still out on Urban Meyer.
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I don't think Ga or Fl would ever be interested in trading Richt or Meyer for Fulmer. I don't think the opposite is true. :devilsmoke:
 
#27
#27
Meyer is definately in a honeymoon stage, but proved his worth in Utah. We will see how adaptable his system is this year. He will have to be willing to make changes to make it work in the SEC.

Richt, who I think is a good coach has his own hurdles. IMO he squandered and opportunity to play for all the marbles in 04, hence my objection to his poplularity with the national media. He still has a lot to prove.
 
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(Lexvol @ Aug 10 said:
Richt, who I think is a good coach has his own hurdles. IMO he squandered and opportunity to play for all the marbles in 04, hence my objection to his poplularity with the national media. He still has a lot to prove.
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I agree. I think there are a lot of Dawg fans that aren't quite sold on Richt trying to be the head coach and calling the plays.
 
#29
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That 04 team reminded me a lot of UT's 1996 team. All the talent was in place, but there were some bonehead mistakes made by both players and coaches. Much like CPF in the Manning days, Richt is going to have to find a way to beat Florida.
 
#31
#31
Tedford is getting a lot of praise right now, he may be a little overhyped, but where was Cal at before he got there? He is untested however against good teams outside the Pac-10.(advantage Fulmer)

Fisher Deberry is a really good coach, I'd put him even with Fulmer, he's done pretty well with military school talent over the years. (Even)

Too early too tell with Urban Meyer because how many great coaches did he go up against when he was at Bowling Green and Utah? Tommy Bowden got rave reviews when he was at Tulane but has failed to be consistant in a major conference. Hard to judge after just one season in the SEC (Undecided)

Too early to tell with Snyder at Marshall, don't think he's up tp CPF status yet. (advantage Fulmer)

Tommy West has done well with what he's had to work with at Memphis. It would be very interesting to see what he could do with major talent. However hasn't really pulled off that huge major upset yet.(advantage Fulmer)

I think Richt is still honing his craft, I think he does have a slight edge over Fulmer right now, but won't be considered great until he gets a NC.(advantage Richt)

Good effort by Shula last year, but he's got to prove that his teams can be consistent, plus his mistake led to the Prothro injury. (advantage Fulmer)

Spurrier is quite possibly the best college coach period. Absolutely amazing what he did last year.(Advantage Spurrier)

Fulmer definitely outcoached Les Miles last year in Baton Rouge.(advantage Fulmer)

Houston Nutt in my opinion is overrated.(advantage Fulmer)

Bobby Johnson got lucky last year, still has never gone to a bowl. (advantage Fulmer)

Rich Brooks is not a bad coach, just coaches at a bad program, still he's not in the same league as Fulmer, couldn't beat us even when we were down at out lowest point last year, if he couldn't do it then, then he ain't ever gonna do it. (advantage Fulmer)
 
#32
#32
(DKG534 @ Aug 11 said:
Tedford is getting a lot of praise right now, he may be a little overhyped, but where was Cal at before he got there? He is untested however against good teams outside the Pac-10.(advantage Fulmer)

Fisher Deberry is a really good coach, I'd put him even with Fulmer, he's done pretty well with military school talent over the years. (Even)

Too early too tell with Urban Meyer because how many great coaches did he go up against when he was at Bowling Green and Utah? Tommy Bowden got rave reviews when he was at Tulane but has failed to be consistant in a major conference. Hard to judge after just one season in the SEC (Undecided)

Too early to tell with Snyder at Marshall, don't think he's up tp CPF status yet. (advantage Fulmer)

Tommy West has done well with what he's had to work with at Memphis. It would be very interesting to see what he could do with major talent. However hasn't really pulled off that huge major upset yet.(advantage Fulmer)

I think Richt is still honing his craft, I think he does have a slight edge over Fulmer right now, but won't be considered great until he gets a NC.(advantage Richt)

Good effort by Shula last year, but he's got to prove that his teams can be consistent, plus his mistake led to the Prothro injury. (advantage Fulmer)

Spurrier is quite possibly the best college coach period. Absolutely amazing what he did last year.(Advantage Spurrier)

Fulmer definitely outcoached Les Miles last year in Baton Rouge.(advantage Fulmer)

Houston Nutt in my opinion is overrated.(advantage Fulmer)

Bobby Johnson got lucky last year, still has never gone to a bowl. (advantage Fulmer)

Rich Brooks is not a bad coach, just coaches at a bad program, still he's not in the same league as Fulmer, couldn't beat us even when we were down at out lowest point last year, if he couldn't do it then, then he ain't ever gonna do it. (advantage Fulmer)
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Tommy West had major talent at Clemson. He coached it so well he got fired.
 
#33
#33
(hatvol96 @ Aug 11 said:
Tommy West had major talent at Clemson. He coached it so well he got fired.
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What major talent? They were horrible when West was there. Clemson wanted to get another 'backy juice spittin' good ole boy like Danny Ford. He didn't win, so they canned him.
 
#34
#34
I like your asessment, DKG, but I think we've got to consider that no head coach is an island. Its as much about the staff around him as anything to me. This has been both CPF strength (Chavis) and weakness (you figure that one out). That's why I think Richt appears to be a strong as he is. Spurrier gets a lot out of any talent around him, coaching staff included.

But I'd argue to give CPF and his staff advantage (especially with Cutcliffe) over the Urban Myth and Deberry.

I guess that leaves me with an advantage for CPF over everybody except Richt and Spurrier until proven otherwise.
 
#35
#35
I agree you are only as good as your weakest link. Great coordinators can make mediocre head coaches look like geniuses. Arguably the decline of UT's program can be blamed one one coaching change, when Fulmer decided to promote within instead of going out and finding a better replacement. Anyone want to guess which change I'm referring to?
 
#36
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(West Columbia Gamecock @ Aug 11 said:
What major talent? They were horrible when West was there. Clemson wanted to get another 'backy juice spittin' good ole boy like Danny Ford. He didn't win, so they canned him.
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Clemson put more than enough guys in the NFL during West's tenure to have been much better record wise. By the way, that "backy juice spitting good ole boy" was an academic all-american in college and won a National Championship, two concepts completely foreign to South Carolina.
 
#37
#37
In reference to Tommy West keep in mind that you can't always judge a coach by their first stop. Anyone remember Bill Belichik's tenure with the Cleveland Browns? He got fired, is he a bad coach?
 
#38
#38
(DKG534 @ Aug 11 said:
In reference to Tommy West keep in mind that you can't always judge a coach by their first stop. Anyone remember Bill Belichik's tenure with the Cleveland Browns? He got fired, is he a bad coach?
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Belichick took over a 3-13 team when he became the Browns head coach. They were pitiful. Three years later he won a playoff game with them. Then they moved to Baltimore. If I recall, Belichick was fired more over personal disagreement's with Art Modell than with performance on the field.

Tommy West, on the other hand, took over a more than decent Clemson team, and ran them into the ground. He was fired on the heels of a 3-8 season...
 
#39
#39
(oklavol @ Aug 9 said:
I can't envision Fulmer ever accomplishing what Meyer did at Utah. I give the edge to Meyer at this point.
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Yeah? How many National Championships did Utah win under Meyer?

What about Tennessee under Fulmer?
 
#40
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(Atreus21 @ Aug 11 said:
Yeah? How many National Championships did Utah win under Meyer?

What about Tennessee under Fulmer?
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It should tell us something that fans of other teams are constantly coming on this board and defending TCHFCATUTK. They don't want him to go anywhere. I wonder why?
 
#41
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(hatvol96 @ Aug 11 said:
It should tell us something that fans of other teams are constantly coming on this board and defending TCHFCATUTK. They don't want him to go anywhere. I wonder why?
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:lol: I thought the same thing.
 
#42
#42
(Atreus21 @ Aug 11 said:
Yeah? How many National Championships did Utah win under Meyer?

What about Tennessee under Fulmer?
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Funny how all the LSU, GA, and Fl fans on this board always like Fulmer. :ermm:
 
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