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[VOLatile]

They split up & divorce just like men & women. You don't have to be married to love someone & be in a relationship either. Trying to force feed the acceptance of something that not everybody ever will is getting old as well.

Man... you can look away. No one's forcing anything on you.

 

[Weezer]

They split up & divorce just like men & women. You don't have to be married to love someone & be in a relationship either. Trying to force feed the acceptance of something that not everybody ever will is getting old as well.

You don't have to be married to love someone, but you're married to your wife, right?

 

[Wylo]

lots of gay hating in here. I guess two people loving each other enough to get married should make us all worried. I feel sorry for your kids, having to grow up around such hate and bitterness.

Personally, I'm more upset about the black/white/mexican trash that has about 8 kids and gets my government to pay for everything with my money.

Damn those homosexuals. How dare they find love! !

 

[Obsessed]

lots of gay hating in here. I guess two people loving each other enough to get married should make us all worried. I feel sorry for your kids, having to grow up around such hate and bitterness.

Personally, I'm more upset about the black/white/mexican trash that has about 8 kids and gets my government to pay for everything with my money.

Damn those homosexuals. How dare they find love! !

I hate all those listed. Does that make me half as righteous as you?


Seriously- just because I personally don't condone homosexual marriage doesn't mean I hate gay people.

Ease up.

 

[TNsnyper20]

I hate all those listed. Does that make me half as righteous as you?


Seriously- just because I personally don't condone homosexual marriage doesn't mean I hate gay people.

Ease up.

I don't understand why people have such a difficult time with this. Just because someone doesn't believe or endorse what others do doesn't mean they aren't tolerant. All they see is someone standing up for their beliefs and they relate it intolerant hate.

Idiots.

 

[TXA&M07]

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[Obsessed]

I don't understand why people have such a difficult time with this. Just because someone doesn't believe or endorse what others do doesn't mean they aren't tolerant. All they see is someone standing up for their beliefs and they relate it intolerant hate.

Idiots.

Agreed

 

[Burhead]

I don't understand why people have such a difficult time with this. Just because someone doesn't believe or endorse what others do doesn't mean they aren't tolerant. All they see is someone standing up for their beliefs and they relate it intolerant hate.

Idiots.

I have no problem with people holding certain opinions, what I have a problem with is using the government to back up those views.

 

[Slydell]

They split up & divorce just like men & women. You don't have to be married to love someone & be in a relationship either. Trying to force feed the acceptance of something that not everybody ever will is getting old as well.

I'm sure everyone feels that way. So, why don't we accept different relationships and move on? No reason to cheat someone out of equal rights by not providing them with the equal rights others enjoy.

 

[Obsessed]

I'm sure everyone feels that way. So, why don't we accept different relationships and move on? No reason to cheat someone out of equal rights by not providing them with the equal rights others enjoy.

Where are these rights everyone keeps talking about located? Ill be married 14 years in April and I have yet to see any rights.

 

[TNsnyper20]

Where are these rights everyone keeps talking about located? Ill be married 14 years in April and I have yet to see any rights.

I think he wad taking about health benefits, tax filings, and most importantly legal rights if, God forbid, they had to make a medical decision on their behalf.

And I get that.

 

[govols/cc]

I'm sure everyone feels that way. So, why don't we accept different relationships and move on? No reason to cheat someone out of equal rights by not providing them with the equal rights others enjoy.

What do you mean equal rights? Single folks or non-married couples don't get the same things married folks do yet accept it. Why can't homosexuals accept it? I mean marriage is between a man & woman, pretty simple.

 

[govols/cc]

I think he wad taking about health benefits, tax filings, and most importantly legal rights if, God forbid, they had to make a medical decision on their behalf.

And I get that.

There are others ways. Power of attorney & such.

 

[Slydell]

Where are these rights everyone keeps talking about located? Ill be married 14 years in April and I have yet to see any rights.

I think he wad taking about health benefits, tax filings, and most importantly legal rights if, God forbid, they had to make a medical decision on their behalf.

And I get that.

Yep. Everyone shouts about rights so no need to step on others.

 

[gcbvol]

What do you mean equal rights? Single folks or non-married couples don't get the same things married folks do yet accept it. Why can't homosexuals accept it? I mean marriage is between a man & woman, pretty simple.

We've been through this, govols. Gay folks do not have the access to marriage and the 1,100 + benefits/privieges that are a part (some only available through marriage). Those single and unmarried straight folks have that access. In this way they are not comparable.

I have no problem with your personal beliefs, but gay people do not have equal treatment.

 

[Slydell]

What do you mean equal rights? Single folks or non-married couples don't get the same things married folks do yet accept it. Why can't homosexuals accept it? I mean marriage is between a man & woman, pretty simple.

Marriage is between a man and woman in your opinion. It's not an opinion shared by everyone. It is an opinion shared by many, but not everyone. Why deny a loving couple the opportunity to be legally married and enjoy the benefits of marriage? Or, the other benefits it affords?

 

[Kook]

There are others ways. Power of attorney & such.

I wasn't going to respond again in this thread. But I feel like I need to say this.

I know/knew two men who were partners. One of them became very ill. Before heading to the hospital for the final time, he has his partner sign and power of attorney. skipping ahead...

He was eventually placed on life support. His family, who has not spoken to him since he came out, arrived at the hospital. They told doctors to keep him on life support. His partner, through personal discussion knew that he did not want to be kept alive on life support. As much as it hurt, He told the doctors his partner's wishes. However, though the legal team at the hospitals eyes, the parents held the right, above the partners power of attorney. He remained on life support. Once the family had won, they left, never to return. Since all bills we're shared, the life partner got stuck with the bill.

So before you go spouting off about things, make sure you know that they work. If this were a "married" couple, parents would no longer hold the right above the husband or wife.

 

[Obsessed]

We've been through this, govols. Gay folks do not have the access to marriage and the 1,100 + benefits/privieges that are a part (some only available through marriage). Those single and unmarried straight folks have that access. In this way they are not comparable.

I have no problem with your personal beliefs, but gay people do not have equal treatment.

Are there not states that recognize gay unions/marriages? I think there is, is there not?

As far as health care, I believe that's at a business level, no?

A company can offer insurance to your S.O. Regardless of marriage? Right?

 

[TNsnyper20]

There are others ways. Power of attorney & such.

Getting a power of attorney takes time. In some instances time isn't available. Even though the "partner" may know what they truly want the decision would be left up to someone else that might have other ideas.

 

[Obsessed]

I wasn't going to respond again in this thread. But I feel like I need to say this.

I know/knew two men who were partners. One of them became very ill. Before heading to the hospital for the final time, he has his partner sign and power of attorney. skipping ahead...

He was eventually placed on life support. His family, who has not spoken to him since he came out, arrived at the hospital. They told doctors to keep him on life support. His partner, through personal discussion knew that he did not want to be kept alive on life support. As much as it hurt, He told the doctors his partner's wishes. However, though the legal team at the hospitals eyes, the parents held the right, above the partners power of attorney. He remained on life support. Once the family had won, they left, never to return. Since all bills we're shared, the life partner got stuck with the bill.

So before you go spouting off about things, make sure you know that they work. If this were a "married" couple, parents would no longer hold the right above the husband or wife.

I would think this situation varies from state to state?

Edit to add: this same thing has happened to straight couples as well

 

[Kook]

I would think this situation varies from state to state?

That may be true. To be honest, it may even vary hospital to hospital. I'm was just sharing from an event i personally witnessed.

I'm just trying to say. You may think marriage should only be for a man and a woman. But gays should have equal rights when it comes to their life with the person that they love.

 

[gcbvol]

I wasn't going to respond again in this thread. But I feel like I need to say this.

I know/knew two men who were partners. One of them became very ill. Before heading to the hospital for the final time, he has his partner sign and power of attorney. skipping ahead...

He was eventually placed on life support. His family, who has not spoken to him since he came out, arrived at the hospital. They told doctors to keep him on life support. His partner, through personal discussion knew that he did not want to be kept alive on life support. As much as it hurt, He told the doctors his partner's wishes. However, though the legal team at the hospitals eyes, the parents held the right, above the partners power of attorney. He remained on life support. Once the family had won, they left, never to return. Since all bills we're shared, the life partner got stuck with the bill.

So before you go spouting off about things, make sure you know that they work. If this were a "married" couple, parents would no longer hold the right above the husband or wife.

This is a sad, but not isolated situation. I know of two instances in Florida where medical POAs were not recognized by hospitals. They are actually more afraid of fighting closest relatives than same-sex partners with POA. They are not a secure alternative.

 

[Obsessed]

Are there not states that recognize gay unions/marriages? I think there is, is there not?

As far as health care, I believe that's at a business level, no?

A company can offer insurance to your S.O. Regardless of marriage? Right?

Bump

 

[govols/cc]

So what if states agreed to legalize gay marriage but still held it different than heterosexual marriage? Would that be ok? Say taxes had to be filed separate. Separate health insurance. Etc etc.

 

[Kook]

Are there not states that recognize gay unions/marriages? I think there is, is there not?

As far as health care, I believe that's at a business level, no?

A company can offer insurance to your S.O. Regardless of marriage? Right?

I'm not flaming, this is an honest questions.

Are you implying that homosexual couples should move to states that recognize marriages, and seek and employer that offers insurance to their partner?