Cold hard truth

#56
#56
ColinS said:
I wish that was the only problem. Frontcourt play is every bit as big a problem right now. We can't play slow because we can't score inside. We can't play fast because we don't have a true point guard. In short, we can't score.
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Barnes said we have four point guards.
 
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#58
wmcovol said:
I like this team but the truth is this team beat Mizzou in the first game convincingly but since then has lost every game to other top teams in the SEC; Alabama, Florida, Mizzou & LSU. Every game they’ve won has been vs the bottom half of the SEC.

And Kansas, like Ky, is big name but is about the same as lower half of the league. Jmo.
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Unfortunately this is the ugly truth. This team can have a good shooting night, but has shown they are not consistent enough to beat good teams.

Not sure what happened to our defensive ability to shut teams under 60, either. This part frustrates me more, because this was more of our identity. We can shoot good enough to win a 65-58 game. But, not good enough when teams are pushing in the upper 70s to 80s.

At this point, a sweet 16 or SEC championship appearance feels like the ceiling.
 
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#59
vavolfan6 said:
Unfortunately this is the ugly truth. This team can have a good shooting night, but has shown they are not consistent enough to beat good teams.

Not sure what happened to our defensive ability to shut teams under 60, either. This part frustrates me more, because this was more of our identity. We can shoot good enough to win a 65-58 game. But, not good enough when teams are pushing in the upper 70s to 80s.

At this point, a sweet 16 or SEC championship appearance feels like the ceiling.
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Teams have gotten better offensively as the season has progressed. At least most teams. Ours hasn’t.
 
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wmcovol said:
Teams have gotten better offensively as the season has progressed. At least most teams. Ours hasn’t.
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It hasn't ? I definitely think our offense looks better, since the Kentucky game. Yeah, we laid an egg against LSU, but Springer is becoming "The MAN" and Keon is looking for his shot, even more, too. Imo, UT is starting to peak at the right time. Gotta get Pons and Fulk, healthier and/or hope ON continues to improve. Free Corey Walker, PLEASE !
 
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The Dog said:
It hasn't ? I definitely think our offense looks better, since the Kentucky game. Yeah, we laid an egg against LSU, but Springer is becoming "The MAN" and Keon is looking for his shot, even more, too. Imo, UT is starting to peak at the right time. Gotta get Pons and Fulk, healthier and/or hope ON continues to improve. Free Corey Walker, PLEASE !
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I hope you are right but Ky & LSU are two of the worst defensive teams in the league. When Ga got aggressive after falling behind by 20, they really clamped down the offense.
 
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wmcovol said:
I hope you are right but Ky & LSU are two of the worst defensive teams in the league. When Ga got aggressive after falling behind by 20, they really clamped down the offense.
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As do I. But like Dykes said, LSU played their best game of the year, defensively. I'm sure that's partly on UT's bad shooting, but also shows how good LSU could be on defense. I'm sure Wade used UT's defensive reputation to get the best out of all those athletes that LSU has, that prefer not to play defense, most games.
 
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#63
Action_1505 said:
Vescovi is nothing more than a spot up shooter that gets hot every once in a awhile. To steamy! And a liability on defense those quicker point guards blow right past him. He he gets caught in the air or picking up his dribble. Wish Chandler would’ve reclassified. Barnes really should’ve addressed the paint recruiting this last year and it appears the same his happening for ‘21-‘22.
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Barnes has whiffed on recruiting a big man the past several years and it has come back to haunt him. The only 2 decent ones he has recruited since he’s been here left. Derrick Walker having a good season at Nebraska . Why he recruited Plavisc, Anosike and Pember is a mystery To me.
 
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Johnnyreb#VFL said:
There was a time when us basket Vols would have killed to get to the sweet 16. Just another example of how Barnes has truly changed the culture around the basketball program.
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Lol, Barnes has taken us to one Sweet 16. Look at what Jerry Green did in 4 years and he got fired
 
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cardvolfan said:
Comparing Green to Barnes is laughable. Are you seriously saying Green is a better recruiter or coach than Barnes?
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Green was a first class jerk and lazy but he closed the deal on Harris (signed with O’Neal but could have requested a release after KO left) Yarbrough, Slay & Haslip I believe. TH & VY were clearly 5 stars and Slay & Haslip were high 4 if not 5 stars.

The team Green had that lost to NC was probably the most talented team Tennessee ever put on the floor. They should have gone to the Final Four with a decent coach.
 
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This team could lose to Austin Peay....and conversely beat almost any team in the top 10 outside of Baylor and Gonzaga. Waaaay too inconsistent. The only consistent thing about this team is its inconsistency. I could see them scoring 80 in the first round in a blowout win...then losing in round 2 only scoring 50 to a "lesser" team.
 
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djohnnyg said:
This team could lose to Austin Peay....and conversely beat almost any team in the top 10 outside of Baylor and Gonzaga. Waaaay too inconsistent. The only consistent thing about this team is its inconsistency. I could see them scoring 80 in the first round in a blowout win...then losing in round 2 only scoring 50 to a "lesser" team.
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I feel like you've posted this same comment 3 or 4 times now
 
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cardvolfan said:
Comparing Green to Barnes is laughable. Are you seriously saying Green is a better recruiter or coach than Barnes?
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I didn’t really say that Green was better than Barnes. However, when you compare their records at TN it might be difficult to argue otherwise
Green 4 seasons : 89-36 71%WP ; 4 NCAA tourneys , 1 Sweet 16
Barnes 5 1/2 seasons: 119-69. 63%WP; 2 NCAA tourneys, 1 sweet 16
 
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1985Vols said:
I didn’t really say that Green was better than Barnes. However, when you compare their records at TN it might be difficult to argue otherwise
Green 4 seasons : 89-36 71%WP ; 4 NCAA tourneys , 1 Sweet 16
Barnes 5 1/2 seasons: 119-69. 63%WP; 2 NCAA tourneys, 1 sweet 16
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Barnes: inherited 1 dumpster fire
Green: was a dumpster fire
 
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#71
livefaith said:
It's a good point to keep in mind.
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Except we don’t quite make the tournament every year. We would have missed last year and if Springer/Johnson leave I have serious questions if they can make it next year.
 
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#72
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Barnes: inherited 1 dumpster fire
Green: was a dumpster fire
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Green was a real piece of work. He had some of the most talented teams we’ve ever had And won more than 20 games each season he coached. He named his boat “420’s” after he was fired from UT.
 
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