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[VolunteerHillbilly]

I disagree. There's no comparison to studying bluegrass and the amount of time and energy applied to getting a STEM degree.

OTOH, I knew a lot of pre-med majors who did not get accepted to medical school. The good looking ones and the ones related to physicians became drug reps. The rest were no better off than the sociology majors.

 

[Godfatha]

Very difficult.... my contractor customers have been telling me this for years...if there was ever a good time to go to trade school it’s right now.

Go to trade school or start out at the bottom learning a trade. In the 4 years you would have spent $150k going to college, you will have made that or more. No student debt, and likely making more money yearly than that college graduate.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Go to trade school or start out at the bottom learning a trade. In the 4 years you would have spent $150k going to college, you will have made that or more. No student debt, and likely making more money yearly than that college graduate.

I’m not saying this isn’t a good option for people but we’ve been in a building boom since coming out of the 2008 recession. We all know what happens when the boom slows down...the jobs dry up and tradesmen get in a race to the bottom to underbid each other, or they just get replaced with cheap labor from across the border.

 

[txbo]

I’m not saying this isn’t a good option for people but we’ve been in a building boom since coming out of the 2008 recession. We all know what happens when the boom slows down...the jobs dry up and tradesmen get in a race to the bottom to underbid each other, or they just get replaced with cheap labor from across the border.

In the worst of times, it's difficult to get a skilled electrician to come out.

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

In the worst of times, it's difficult to get a skilled electrician to come out.

In 2008ish, I had a tree down a power line that runs from my home breaker box to my barn. It was something my father in law rigged up without going through codes. I had no trouble getting a licensed electrician to come over and reattach it. Same thing happened a couple of years ago and I can’t get anyone to touch it. I’m kinda looking forward to the next recession so I have power in my barn again.

 

[txbo]

In 2008ish, I had a tree down a power line that runs from my home breaker box to my barn. It was something my father in law rigged up without going through codes. I had no trouble getting a licensed electrician to come over and reattach it. Same thing happened a couple of years ago and I can’t get anyone to touch it. I’m kinda looking forward to the next recession so I have power in my barn again.

LOL. That's about as anecdotal as it comes.

 

[volsknx]

Here is my take on this: Go to UT or another Land Grant Institution. Get the degree in science and not Liberal Arts. You learn how to think and that is taught in a manner consistent with improvement due to elevated thought process.

 

[Smokey X]

In 2008ish, I had a tree down a power line that runs from my home breaker box to my barn. It was something my father in law rigged up without going through codes. I had no trouble getting a licensed electrician to come over and reattach it. Same thing happened a couple of years ago and I can’t get anyone to touch it. I’m kinda looking forward to the next recession so I have power in my barn again.

don't know what kind of loads you use in the barn but I started using my generator when power is needed there....I just use lights and power saws.

 

[GreveHaller]

if you reduce the cost of a commodity to zero, its value is also reduced to zero

 

[volfanbill]

College is a scam. Unfortunately 2 entire generations had it drilled in to their heads that if they didn't go to college they would never get a good job and never have money. This leads to people going to school not really knowing what they want to do but they have to go because their parents said they have to. This leads to them just pretty much picking a major at random, never getting a really good job, and still in debt 100k plus.

Too bad businesses say you need a degree too

 

[hog88]

Too bad businesses say you need a degree too

This is what started the business world requiring college degrees.

Griggs v. Duke Power Co. - Wikipedia.

 

[Firebirdparts]

Things may be swinging back the other way, if not now, after while. Eastman started using 4 year degrees as a sort of filter, just to hire people for operations. If somebody has a 4 year degree, then you know that they are capable of at least something. There was a time that we could have hired 100 people for every slot, but I don't think that is true anymore. I'm not directly involved in it.

 

[Godfatha]

I’m not saying this isn’t a good option for people but we’ve been in a building boom since coming out of the 2008 recession. We all know what happens when the boom slows down...the jobs dry up and tradesmen get in a race to the bottom to underbid each other, or they just get replaced with cheap labor from across the border.

True. I experienced that in 2008 thru 2011. Those were certainly tough times for construction.