Combined win loss record of the teams we beat , on our way to a 10-2 regular season record.

[sjt18]

50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!

I looked at this a while back when discussing IU. IU doesn't have a Bama type win on their resume. OTOH in terms of W/L, the records are more similar than I wish they were.

 

[sjt18]

Using straight opponent records is very misleading. You can pretty much throw out everyone's non-P5 games, because a win over an 8-4 Buffalo or 6-6 Western Michigan is no more impressive than a win over 3-9 UTEP or 0-12 Kent St and is much less impressive than a win over a 2-10 Miss St.
By this metric if a team beat Buffalo, Bowling Green, & Western Michigan vs UTEP, Kent St, Miss St. the combined records would be 21-15 vs 5-31. The former is no more impressive than the latter, despite the massive difference in record.

That's true but the combined record of UT's SEC opponents is 40-44. UT ended up playing 6 of the 8 teams that make up the bottom half of the SEC this year. No one designed it that way. No one expected OU to be so bad. But to be honest, NCSU and OU are the only two teams that really surprise me by being relatively weak.

 

[Daniel_Lincolns_Foot]

You can only play the schedule thats put in front of you. In hindsight something like the OU win doesn’t look as good, but at the moment it was a big time matchup (and still a tough road test).

But I would rather play a tough out of conference opponent to a close loss, rather than beating Kent State 70-0.

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

You can only play the schedule thats put in front of you. In hindsight something like the OU win doesn’t look as good, but at the moment it was a big time matchup (and still a tough road test).

But I would rather play a tough out of conference opponent to a close loss, rather than beating Kent State 70-0.

The OU and Arkansas games show that any given Saturday, one of those bottom half teams can ambush you. We handled OU, but Arky caught us lacking. Bama was caught twice by Pavia and then OU, but is way more talented than either of those teams.

The baseline speed, talent, and athleticism is much higher in the SEC. Did you know Arkansas has more talent than every team in the Big12 on the 24/7 Talent Comp? They go out and laid an egg in overtime against a bad OSU, but the talent is still there and you never know when one of those bum teams turns on the jets until you are on the tail end of an ass whooping in the 4th quarter.

 

[tennesseeduke]

if we never played a FCS or a perennial Q4 team again it would be fine with me

So no more Vanderbilt?

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Easy by SEC standards. 28th ranked schedule in the country. Fourth toughest schedule in the current CFP field. You step right on out of here with that

We also played a FCS team, two of the worst FBS teams, and a 6-6 ACC team.

Also when you look at our SEC opponents, Vandy lost to Georgia State, Kentucky lost to Louisville, Florida lost to Miami, Arkansas lost to Oklahoma State, Mississippi State lost to both Arizona State and Toledo. So it’s not like we played a bunch of teams that beat up on everyone else and just got cannibalized in the SEC.

According to the SOS metric on Sports Reference, we had the 68th strongest schedule, which sounds a bit more realistic than whatever metric you are using.

 

[Dansky]

When is someone going to take a stand and force Notre Dame to actually play against real competition? Their record in the SEC would match Vanderbilt.

Don’t think so

 

[hUTch2002]

We also played a FCS team, two of the worst FBS teams, and a 6-6 ACC team.

Also when you look at our SEC opponents, Vandy lost to Georgia State, Kentucky lost to Louisville, Florida lost to Miami, Arkansas lost to Oklahoma State, Mississippi State lost to both Arizona State and Toledo. So it’s not like we played a bunch of teams that beat up on everyone else and just got cannibalized in the SEC.

According to the SOS metric on Sports Reference, we had the 68th strongest schedule, which sounds a bit more realistic than whatever metric you are using.

28th is from the ESPN resume. I tried searching for the Sports Reference SOS metric but didn’t find it. Do you have a link?

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

28th is from the ESPN resume. I tried searching for the Sports Reference SOS metric but didn’t find it. Do you have a link?

2024 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

2024 Tennessee Volunteers Stats

www.sports-reference.com

Click on “More Team Info” there near the top of the page.

ESPN’s strength of schedule is heavily based on their FPI projections, which have such silly rankings as Bama ranked number 4, Notre Dame number 2, and 6-6 Virginia Tech ranked 18 spots ahead of 9-3 Syracuse, despite the fact they are in the same conference and Syracuse won the head to head matchup.

 

[hUTch2002]

2024 Tennessee Volunteers Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com

2024 Tennessee Volunteers Stats

www.sports-reference.com

Click on “More Team Info” there near the top of the page.

ESPN’s strength of schedule is heavily based on their FPI projections, which have such silly rankings as Bama ranked number 4, Notre Dame number 2, and 6-6 Virginia Tech ranked 18 spots ahead of 9-3 Syracuse, despite the fact they are in the same conference and Syracuse won the head to head matchup.

Thanks! Here’s what makes zero sense. IU and Ohio State have similar SOS between both sources. ESPN has IU 65th and Ohio State 26th. SR has IU 69th and OSU 25th. Those differences make total sense. How are we possibly 28th in one and 68th in the other? That makes zero sense.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Thanks! Here’s what makes zero sense. IU and Ohio State have similar SOS between both sources. ESPN has IU 65th and Ohio State 26th. SR has IU 69th and OSU 25th. Those differences make total sense. How are we possibly 28th in one and 68th in the other? That makes zero sense.

I agree it makes no sense, but I think it’s probably because ESPN’s projections favor the SEC more. Cal had a better record than Auburn and won in Jordan-Hare, but Cal is ranked 50th while Auburn is 29th. According to ESPN, Oklahoma is 26th, so that was not a horrible loss for Bama and was actually a pretty nice win for us. It’s probably due to stuff like that.

 

[hUTch2002]

I agree it makes no sense, but I think it’s probably because ESPN’s projections favor the SEC more. Cal had a better record than Auburn and won in Jordan-Hare, but Cal is ranked 50th while Auburn is 29th. According to ESPN, Oklahoma is 26th, so that was not a horrible loss for Bama and was actually a pretty nice win for us. It’s probably due to stuff like that.

I mean it’s mostly subjective of course but 40 spots definitely points to one of them having an issue. That’s massive. Thanks for the link!

By the way, the one I really don’t get is this whole SOR thing. That seems even more subjective.

 

[Volteacher]

Power 5 wins losses 55- 52
SEC Only..................49-46

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

50-70
I'm all Vol all day 365 days a year ! But these numbers seemed bad to me . For reference I decided to calculate the win loss record of teams Notre Dame beat . ND is a team I'm critical of every year for playing a weak schedule. Combined win loss record of teams ND beat this year 66-64 .
I sure hope we get to host a playoff game in Neyland stadium and I hope these numbers don't hurt us in the eyes of the selection committee. There will be a whole lot of politics being played the next two weeks .
Go Vols !!

Did Notre Dame playnone more game than us?

Assuming we both played 12 games, why do their opponents have 10 more games?

 

[GetYouSomeofThat]

Playing devils advocate , is never a popular position . Combined win loss record of all 12 of our opponents this season is 66-78 46 % , if you round up . If that is considered a good strength of schedule , then my definition of strength of schedule is way off . Our only marquee win was against a 9-3 Bama team , most would agree the worst Bama team in 15 years . I am just stating the arguments our enemies will be making behind closed doors , for the next two weeks.
I think we definitely make the 12 team playoff , but in my opinion we will be very fortunate to land a 5-8 spot , when it's all said and done .

Maybe I am just slow but your numbers changed here from the original post.

 

[#1n51&98]

Maybe I am just slow but your numbers changed here from the original post.

My first post was the combined win loss total of the 10 teams we beat , my second post was the combined win loss total of all 12 of our 2024 regular season opponents . My apologies for the confusion.

 

[WiseOlVol]

We are ranked 6, 2 in front of us will lose. Because 4 play each other. Losing a cc game might not hurt you for getting in, but can impact seeding. If UGA looses and PSU gets walloped we could be 4th ranked with a 6 seed. At it stands now we should be 6th ranked and 8th seed and hosting at worse.

More than likely, Texas and PSU will get trounced. We move up at least 1 spot.

 

[#1n51&98]

Did Notre Dame playnone more game than us?

Assuming we both played 12 games, why do their opponents have 10 more games?

The post you quoted was in reference to the win loss totals of the 10 teams our Vols beat compared to the win loss records of the 11 teams ND beat .

 

[#1n51&98]

We got beat out at the political chess match taking place behind closed doors , with 100s of millions of dollars at stake .