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Looks like the Villanova/Arizona game will decide which conference has bragging rights going into next weekend. A Villanova win will give the Big East twice as many teams in the round of 16 as any other conference. Arizona has the opportunity to pull the Pac 10 into a tie. The SEC has actually aquitted itself better than I expected. Tennessee and Alabama each caught tough second round matchups. Kentucky played UCONN toe to toe. The only real flop was Arkansas, and, given the quality of their coaching, I should have seen that coming.
 
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the MVC is the best conference. they should have got more teams in.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
Looks like the Villanova/Arizona game will decide which conference has bragging rights going into next weekend. A Villanova win will give the Big East twice as many teams in the round of 16 as any other conference. Arizona has the opportunity to pull the Pac 10 into a tie. The SEC has actually aquitted itself better than I expected. Tennessee and Alabama each caught tough second round matchups. Kentucky played UCONN toe to toe. The only real flop was Arkansas, and, given the quality of their coaching, I should have seen that coming.
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I think the real power is which conferences show up in the elite 8 and final 4.
Its the teams that win it all and make the final rounds that makes the conference look good.

SEC may not have any teams in the elite 8 unless LSU can get by Duke or Florida makes in. Big east potentially could have 3, Nova, Conn, and BC.
 
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Um yeah, they do have two teams in the Sweet 16 but the other two also lost in the first round.

Given what happens next season, I think the Missouri Valley may have arrived.

COME ONNNNNN Zona. Make Packer shut his dirty trap.
 
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(oklavol @ Mar 19 said:
I think the real power is which conferences show up in the elite 8 and final 4.
Its the teams that win it all and make the final rounds that makes the conference look good.

SEC may not have any teams in the elite 8 unless LSU can get by Duke or Florida makes in. Big east potentially could have 3, Nova, Conn, and BC.
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If Florida isn't in the Elite Eight, Georgetown will be. The Big East has a fair shot at fielding 1/2 of the Elite Eight.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
If Florida isn't in the Elite Eight, Georgetown will be. The Big East has a fair shot at fielding 1/2 of the Elite Eight.
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says the man the MVC sucked and george mason didnt deserve to be in the tourney.......
 
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(vols2345 @ Mar 19 said:
says the man the MVC sucked and george mason didnt deserve to be in the tourney.......
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And you said Arizona was "deadly" and UT was going to make a real tourney run. Considering 1/2 of the MVC entries got embarassed, that's not the most impressive thing I've ever seen. George Mason, I missed. It happens. However, I don't see near as many people on here running their mouths about how great the SEC is and how overrated the Big East is anymore. They should come back and take their medicine.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
No team that loses to USC and Oregon State is "deadly."
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Yeah, and they were just a hair's breadth away from knocking 1-seed Villanova. Nice call.
 
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To Kentucky's credit, they were outed by a number #1 seed that possibly winds up winning the whole thing.
 
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(checkerboard_charly @ Mar 19 said:
big east had double the teams of all the conferences so of course they should have more teams left.
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The Big East had 8 teams. The SEC had 5. So, from a percentage basis, 50% of the Big East teams are left, compared to 40% for the SEC.
 
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(milohimself @ Mar 19 said:
Yeah, and they were just a hair's breadth away from knocking 1-seed Villanova. Nice call.
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Milo, what is this fetish you guys in the Pacific Northwest have for Arizona? More often than not, they flame out early and underachieve. On the East Coast, they'd be just another good program.
 
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Yeah... They just lost by a slim margin to a 1-seed on their home court. You tellin' me that any other team could do that? Wow, you guys must play basketball on a different level over there. :bow:
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
Milo, what is this fetish you guys in the Pacific Northwest have for Arizona? More often than not, they flame out early and underachieve. On the East Coast, they'd be just another good program.
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highly doubt it but whatever. Arizona gets some of the best talent year in and year out and had an off year this year. how easily you forget all of arizona's final four apperances and NC. not many teams on the east coast have the same Resume as Arizona. it doesnt matter what coast you are on playing basketball. Arizona brings it year in and year out. more then what most can say.
 
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(milohimself @ Mar 19 said:
Yeah... They just lost by a slim margin to a 1-seed on their home court. You tellin' me that any other team could do that? Wow, you guys must play basketball on a different level over there. :bow:
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West Virginia won in Villanova's on campus gym this year. Losing at Oregon State, however, there aren't many Big East teams that can do that.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
West Virginia won in Villanova's on campus gym this year. Losing at Oregon State, however, there aren't many Big East teams that can do that.
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West Virginia also lost to Marshall at home. It amounts to jack.

Arizona would be just another face in the crowd in the Big East, and Checkerboard Charlie will start watching soccer and rooting for the Yankees.
 
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(vols2345 @ Mar 19 said:
highly doubt it but whatever. Arizona gets some of the best talent year in and year out and had an off year this year. how easily you forget all of arizona's final four apperances and NC. not many teams on the east coast have the same Resume as Arizona. it doesnt matter what coast you are on playing basketball. Arizona brings it year in and year out. more then what most can say.
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All of their Final Four Appearances? Let's see, if my memory is accurate that would be '88, '94, '97 and '01. I might have missed one. UCONN, UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, and Syracuse have resumes every bit as impressive. Also, those teams play in conferences with legitimate challengers. You west coasters should thank God that Ben Howland, Tim Floyd, and Lorenzo Romar have arrived in the Pac-10 in the last few years. Now the Pac-10 will have some consistent depth.
 
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(milohimself @ Mar 19 said:
West Virginia also lost to Marshall at home. It amounts to jack.

Arizona would be just another face in the crowd in the Big East, and Checkerboard Charlie will start watching soccer and rooting for the Yankees.
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Try as you might, having Arizona and Gonzaga as standard bearers shows how really weak the west coast is. Now that UCLA and USC are back in business, maybe that will change.
 
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(milohimself @ Mar 19 said:
West Virginia also lost to Marshall at home. It amounts to jack.

Arizona would be just another face in the crowd in the Big East, and Checkerboard Charlie will start watching soccer and rooting for the Yankees.
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They were just another face in the Pac-10 this year.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
All of their Final Four Appearances? Let's see, if my memory is accurate that would be '88, '94, '97 and '01. I might have missed one. UCONN, UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, and Syracuse have resumes every bit as impressive. Also, those teams play in conferences with legitimate challengers. You west coasters should thank God that Ben Howland, Tim Floyd, and Lorenzo Romar have arrived in the Pac-10 in the last few years. Now the Pac-10 will have some consistent depth.
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wow you just named 6 teams that MIGHT have a resume as equal or better then zona. kansas isnt even east coast. so 5 teams, how does that make zona just another east coast teams if there is only 5 teams equal or alittle better then them? Am I missing something here?
 
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(vols2345 @ Mar 19 said:
wow you just named 6 teams that MIGHT have a resume as equal or better then zona. kansas isnt even east coast. so 5 teams, how does that make zona just another east coast teams if there is only 5 teams equal or alittle better then them? Am I missing something here?
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That's if you just use Final Four berths. If you hold Arizona accountable for first round flameouts to the likes of Santa Clara and Seton Hall over the years, the list of teams with better resumes grows considerably.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Mar 19 said:
All of their Final Four Appearances? Let's see, if my memory is accurate that would be '88, '94, '97 and '01. I might have missed one. UCONN, UNC, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, and Syracuse have resumes every bit as impressive. Also, those teams play in conferences with legitimate challengers. You west coasters should thank God that Ben Howland, Tim Floyd, and Lorenzo Romar have arrived in the Pac-10 in the last few years. Now the Pac-10 will have some consistent depth.
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So? It's because there are previous histories of winning. Justin Barry, Lute Olsen, John Wooden, Ralph Miller, Howard Hobson, the list goes on.

I'm done. If you want to keep convincing yourself that west coast athletics are all second-rate, go ahead.
 
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