Correct me if I'm wrong. (QB thread)

#27
#27
UT's best bet is to have someone win the damn job! If you have 3 or 4 qb's you don't have 1!

And don't go back to Spurrier subbing QB's while at UF. It's nowhere near the same situation.
 
#28
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First off...don't start a thread reading "Correct me if I'm wrong"...someone on here always will...HAHAHA

Second...I believe team 117 was a better game-managed team when Worley was at the wheel (i.e. UGA and USCe were better managed games than others, like Candy and even Kensucky)...not 100% sure if this the QB or the staff, but I feel it is probably a mix of the staff having confidence in the QB.

So with that said...what does team 118 look like...Worley starts the year and remains the starter unless he gives the staff a reason for him not being the starter. Dobbs sees limited time in the "bigger" games if we are ahead and sees more time in the "cupcake" games where we will have big leads. IF Worley and Dobbs stay healthy, not sure that Fergy or P-man see any playing time.
 
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DERELICK_MY_VOLS said:
Yeah remember how the majority wanted Peterman to start for the Florida game.....then called Butch an idiot after they got what they wanted because it didn't work :no:
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Then called for a freshman...trashed said freshman...begged Butch to burn redshirt of other freshman QB to ensure victory over scary UK team...did I miss any others? :)
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Bruce Feldman‏@BFeldmanCBS2h
#Vols QB Josh Dobbs here at LA @Elite11 regional. Told me he's been in LA training w Quincy Avery & George Whitfield all week.

Bruce Feldman‏@BFeldmanCBS2h
#Vols QB Josh Dobbs told me he's up to 205 & gained 20 lbs since arriving at UT. "UT's been awesome. Coach Jones is such a great motivator."
 
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You never know what will happen with the QBs next year. When 3 of the 4 QBs were freshmen it was pretty well understood its gonna be rough early on. These guys will be in the system for a full year by next season so it could look a lot better and there is no telling who is going to break out.
 
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Tennkook said:
Unless one of the guys completely and utterly stands out above the rest. And by this, I mean have improved like a mad man over this off season. Worley will get the start for the first game. Assuming, again, all qb's are healthy.

1. Worley is a senior. So he should have the most mature mind and body. *He also has shown more signs that we can succeed with him at the helm. (this is simply my opinion)

2. Dobbs showed flashes of great potential. But not often (once again my opinion)

3. Ferguson…we simply do not know. It's easy to be wishful that he is the best since we haven't seen him. But we haven't seen him in a game.

4. Peterman…Well he would have a lot of making up to do in order to over come trust issues. It could happen. But personally I'm not counting on it.


* Side note. I think we will see Ferguson come in during the first game or two to see how he does. I think he will get considerable playing time, even.
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Worley hasn't shown that he is anything more than a below average qb in the SEC. If one of the other qbs doesn't step up the Vols are in big trouble in the wins and losses category.
 
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Worley is a great back up QB, that's it. When he is confident(seldom), he's great,but...still can't run and is no threat to run.
Just hope QB deal gets settled early in the season before we get too deep into SEC play.
 
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We have seen the ceiling with Worley. We have seen nothing as of yet from Peterman or Ferguson. Dobbs has the most experience out of the young guys and has room for improvement, thus I think he starts the season. IMO we are wasting precious time if Worley starts.
 
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cgbtn said:
I think Dobb's running was an element the coaches will not give back. The other two may be able to run, but Worley runs badly and is afraid.
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I've heard several people say that it was usually a called play, meaning they told the QB to hand it off to the RB rather than an actual option read play. I think the reason for that was the coaches were affraid of injury, especially after Worley was injured.
 
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Tennkook said:
I kind of agree with this. But I think they will have to to be head and shoulders about Worley in the spring. We know what we are getting with Worley in the game. Dobbs has a lot of improving to do before he is the guy. And we still aren't sure what we have with Fergie. This is why I say Worley is the guy. And Fergie will get considerable playing time.
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I don't agree with the first part at all. If Worley wins the job he needs to prove he is better to do it.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I don't agree with the first part at all. If Worley wins the job he needs to prove he is better to do it.
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As it sits. Worley has proven he is better. So it's on everyone else to improve beyond Worley's improvement. That is how you gain a starting position… You have to surpass the starter.
 
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Vols4life said:
Bruce Feldman‏@BFeldmanCBS2h
#Vols QB Josh Dobbs here at LA @Elite11 regional. Told me he's been in LA training w Quincy Avery & George Whitfield all week.

Bruce Feldman‏@BFeldmanCBS2h
#Vols QB Josh Dobbs told me he's up to 205 & gained 20 lbs since arriving at UT. "UT's been awesome. Coach Jones is such a great motivator."
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This is great to see... Dobbs is going to fight to keep his starting job and getting training like this can only help him. I think Whitfield has worked with some big name guys and is recognized as a very good trainer of QBs nationally.
 
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Tennkook said:
As it sits. Worley has proven he is better. So it's on everyone else to improve beyond Worley's improvement. That is how you gain a starting position… You have to surpass the starter.
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A whole lot of development takes place between now and August. If Worley is able to secure it between now and then so be it.

As to your last point the best player should see the field how much better he is than the next guy is irrelevant. If your not playing a guy at any position because he is not head shoulders above an average SR you should be removed from your post.
 
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BeecherVol said:
A whole lot of development takes place between now and August. If Worley is able to secure it between now and then so be it.

As to your last point the best player should see the field how much better he is than the next guy is irrelevant. If your not playing a guy at any position because he is not head shoulders above an average SR you should be removed from your post.
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So in theory…You would start a freshman qb with a slightly better arm than a senior, given everything else is equal. Even though the senior has started a handled a number of games, and the freshman hasn't played a game. Good thing you aren't a coach...
 
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Tennkook said:
So in theory…You would start a freshman qb with a slightly better arm than a senior, given everything else is equal. Even though the senior has started a handled a number of games, and the freshman hasn't played a game. Good thing you aren't a coach...
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If I have a SO or RS(FR) that is equal to or better than a SR (that is average at best in this league) yes either one of those start.

You used the phrase IMO earlier in a post. Here's mine. I think Worley is a good kid and we have seen his ceiling. The other 2 may never materialize into SEC level QBs who really knows at this point. If neither are able to unseat Worley UT will have QB issues for 2 or 3 more years.
 
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I think Dobbs will be a lot better this year...They did not turn him loose last year until the Kentucky game.
 
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BeecherVol said:
If I have a SO or RS(FR) that is equal to or better than a SR (that is average at best in this league) yes either one of those start.

You used the phrase IMO earlier in a post. Here's mine. I think Worley is a good kid and we have seen his ceiling. The other 2 may never materialize into SEC level QBs who really knows at this point. If neither are able to unseat Worley UT will have QB issues for 2 or 3 more years.
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My freshman(or sophomore) year I could drink just as much and just as often as my senior year. Heck, I would even drink more as a freshman. But I had a lot easier trip walking home my senior year.

Hopefully that makes sense. If all things are equal. Maturity prevails…

I hope one of the young guys comes through and takes the starting job. That will be better for our future. All I am saying, is if they aren't well ahead of Worley. Worley starts the first game...
 
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Tennkook said:
My freshman(or sophomore) year I could drink just as much and just as often as my senior year. Heck, I would even drink more as a freshman. But I had a lot easier trip walking home my senior year.

Hopefully that makes sense. If all things are equal. Maturity prevails…

I hope one of the young guys comes through and takes the starting job. That will be better for our future. All I am saying, is if they aren't well ahead of Worley. Worley starts the first game...
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Makes sense. Just not sure it fits the discussion.

Maturity and experience are not one and the same IMO.

I'm for playing the best player. If that's not a JR or SR so be it.

We ll have to agree to disagree I suppose.
 
#48
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This could be a tough--and important--decision by the coaches. If I'm Jones, I start Dobbs unless Worley (or Ferguson) clearly shows that he's better. Furguson has no experience--that's a problem for him (and the team). Worley is "mature" but not all that talented. Dobbs flashed and can run--and he will definitely improve. Also, it will be very hard to give all three guys a fair shot in the spring--and to fairly assess all three. You almost have to pick a top two to start camp, and I'll be very surprised if those two aren't Worley and Dobbs.
 
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#49
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Worley has a delivery that is too mechanical and observable. Easy to lock on him. I don't think it is fixable (ala Tim Tebow). I say roll the dice on Furgie, see what he can bring.
 
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