Crow for lunch (apology to Worley)

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While I am still not convinced JW can be an affective SEC QB, I need to admit being wrong about his arm. Worley threw the ball with more velocity and accuracy than I thought he was physically able to do. I truly believed that his physical abilities were just not at a SEC level. As hard as that Florida game was to watch, I have to say I have more optimism now in Worley's ability. Anyway, since I had no trouble coming on here and calling Worley a rag arm, I thought I should do the same when I realized I was wrong.
Side note- I am laughing out loud at those of you that stated we would be a better team without Bray. We beat Florida by 14+ with Bray in that game, and run for 200 yards due to the fear of the pass IMHO.
 
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While I am still not convinced JW can be an affective SEC QB, I need to admit being wrong about his arm. Worley threw the ball with more velocity and accuracy than I thought he was physically able to do. I truly believed that his physical abilities were just not at a SEC level. As hard as that Florida game was to watch, I have to say I have more optimism now in Worley's ability. Anyway, since I had no trouble coming on here and calling Worley a rag arm, I thought I should do the same when I realized I was wrong.
Side note- I am laughing out loud at those of you that stated we would be a better team without Bray. We beat Florida by 14+ with Bray in that game, and run for 200 yards due to the fear of the pass IMHO.
Of course, this is assuming that Bray was not suspended for taking cash!:)
 
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There should be more people owning up and posting in this thread - More than 75% of VN wanted to participate in the Peterman experiment
 
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There should be more people owning up and posting in this thread - More than 75% of VN wanted to participate in the Peterman experiment

....and still dumb enough to listen to hype, media jocks and uninformed chatter to suggest we throw a freshman out before the coaching staff believes he is ready. They took a flyer on Peterman and we know what happened.
 
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While I am still not convinced JW can be an affective SEC QB, I need to admit being wrong about his arm. Worley threw the ball with more velocity and accuracy than I thought he was physically able to do. I truly believed that his physical abilities were just not at a SEC level. As hard as that Florida game was to watch, I have to say I have more optimism now in Worley's ability. Anyway, since I had no trouble coming on here and calling Worley a rag arm, I thought I should do the same when I realized I was wrong.
Side note- I am laughing out loud at those of you that stated we would be a better team without Bray. We beat Florida by 14+ with Bray in that game, and run for 200 yards due to the fear of the pass IMHO.

Worley doesn't have an SEC arm. That can be overcome with perfect timing and extreme accuracy, or a freakin stud at RB. He has none of those.
 
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I don't think worley is the "answer" because I think he plays timid and too cautious.. But at the end of the Florida game, he was playing like he didn't have a care in the world.. And he played better than he has at any other point of the year.. That being said I still think that Ferguson should play at least 1 quarter in the South Alabama to see what he does, so that maybe he could start the GA game or at least give us an option in the game..
 
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No one on VN put Peterman in that game and if Butch felt so much pressure from the fan base that he felt compelled to start Peterman then he has a lot of growing up to do as a coach.

I don't think starting a thread to "eat crow" is really necessary. If it is, then maybe a new forum section is in order. If everyone who made an off-hand comment about our team or players needed to apologize every week, this site would be both unbearable and unusable.
 
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After watching the Peter for a half, it make Worley look real good, but we are hurting so bad at the QB South Alab. has a chance this week against us and thats bad, we got to get better play i know we want to red shirt the 2 but i say play 1 of them or both just to get them ready for next year plus to show the recruits that we have a QB that can play, that would help to hold the class together.:lolabove:
 
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So if Worley does have the ability to play quarterback in this league then the problem must be the coaching, right?
 
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Worley doesn't have an SEC arm. That can be overcome with perfect timing and extreme accuracy, or a freakin stud at RB. He has none of those.

If Worley's receivers would stop dropping balls that hit them right in the hands, I wager Worley would be looking pretty good right now.

Hell, give me Hunter, CP, and White Lightning back this year and we'd actually have a passing game.

Worley hasn't exactly been a world-beater, but he hasn't lost us any games either. I'm not nearly as down on him as everyone else, and I'm far more in Coach Jones' corner when it comes to our current offensive issues. The WRs have some significant problems right now.
 
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There should be more people owning up and posting in this thread - More than 75% of VN wanted to participate in the Peterman experiment

Owning up to what? Hoping the team can be better than 4-8? Going forward with Worley was not and is not a viable option. He can't play in the SEC.

Peterman tried, failed, and got hurt. So move on to the next guy.

We should get a solid dose of either Ferguson or Dobbs, whichever one is most ready to play. Really the only shot we've got to make it to a bowl game.
 
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Worley has an SEC arm - 50 mph. That equals SEC and NFL speed. Worley has bad footwork at times. Worley is a half count off in getting the ball out to the spot. Bray did the same stuff, he just had more velocity and better receivers.

You will see Worley until the bye week, barring a collapse against USA. How about supporting your QB until/if they change?
 
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Face it Peterman had one bad half of football which did not show up in his previous times on the field. He led a late TD drive at Oregon when Worley was ineffective. Worley is still not the answer unless some how he can become a lot more accurate.
 
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"The problem with not making the change" I agree that I don't think JW is the answer either, not to take you to the SEC championship game and win it. He is a nice backup that wont get you in trouble, having said this he has to continue to get better with the WR so they can help the team with YAC. Until this happens the OL will continue to look average because we are 1 dimension team, teams are loading up for the run. But until CBJ makes the change he needed to find out who is going to rise to the top, low and behold our Defense had us in the game. That I believe that changed the direction of going back to JW instead of RF in the Florida game but we will see.
 
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Worley looks like he can protect the ball marginally better than Peterman, and manage the game a little better.

But Worley is not qb that we can succeed with. If he was, we never would have seen Peterman start.

He'll continue to start until the staff is ready to play Dobbs or Ferguson. Then Worley will likely go the way of Joey Matthews. I hope he can play great, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that.
 
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Better offensive coaching would help two. If you are going to put 2 receivers on each side, split them out more than 2 yards from the tack. Why bunch the defense up in the middle.
 
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If Worley's receivers would stop dropping balls that hit them right in the hands, I wager Worley would be looking pretty good right now.

Hell, give me Hunter, CP, and White Lightning back this year and we'd actually have a passing game.

Worley hasn't exactly been a world-beater, but he hasn't lost us any games either. I'm not nearly as down on him as everyone else, and I'm far more in Coach Jones' corner when it comes to our current offensive issues. The WRs have some significant problems right now.

Listen, Worley is pretty bad at QB. Just because he is better than Peterman isn't saying much. Our receivers have dropped their share of passes, but I have yet to see Worley hit many of them in stride either. Just because a ball hits a receiver in the hands doesn't mean it was a good throw. Most of the time, our receivers are having to adjust to the ball due to a poor throw.

I will eat my Crow as to thinking Peterman had to be better (in my defense I was thinking "How could he be worse?"), but until Worley wins a game that matters and begins throwing accurate passes I will save that crow for a later date.

Also, I am someone who still wants to see what a freshman can do. Will they make mistakes? Yes. Will they lose us a game? Probably. But we will have a very tough hill to climb against the bulk of our schedule with Worley as our starter (unless he pulls a Fulmer-Crompton to Kiffin-Crompton transformation). I think Butch didn't want to bring a freshman into Florida to keep their confidence high. I think we see one of them this week. Hopefully, I won't have to eat crow for this. Because if I do, we are going to have a tough time getting 6 wins...
 
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Face it Peterman had one bad half of football which did not show up in his previous times on the field. He led a late TD drive at Oregon when Worley was ineffective. Worley is still not the answer unless some how he can become a lot more accurate.

Did you watch Peterman against Austin Peay? He did nothing to deserve playing time.

Pretty sure Oregon was on their 3rd string by the time he got in there.

I know it sounds like I'm bashing Peterman, but it's just the honest truth. I wish nothing but the best for him, but it's looking like a transfer will be that option.
 
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Worley has an SEC arm - 50 mph. That equals SEC and NFL speed. Worley has bad footwork at times. Worley is a half count off in getting the ball out to the spot. Bray did the same stuff, he just had more velocity and better receivers.

You will see Worley until the bye week, barring a collapse against USA. How about supporting your QB until/if they change?

If that's the case he needs to take the governor off his arm!
 
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That throw to Croom though WAS an elite SEC level pass. He showed plenty of arm strength and accuracy on that one. I just wish he could replicate it with more regularity.
 
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If Worley's receivers would stop dropping balls that hit them right in the hands, I wager Worley would be looking pretty good right now.

Hell, give me Hunter, CP, and White Lightning back this year and we'd actually have a passing game.

Worley hasn't exactly been a world-beater, but he hasn't lost us any games either. I'm not nearly as down on him as everyone else, and I'm far more in Coach Jones' corner when it comes to our current offensive issues. The WRs have some significant problems right now.

This
 
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Did you watch Peterman against Austin Peay? He did nothing to deserve playing time.

Pretty sure Oregon was on their 3rd string by the time he got in there.

I know it sounds like I'm bashing Peterman, but it's just the honest truth. I wish nothing but the best for him, but it's looking like a transfer will be that option.

You hit the nail, right on the head.
 

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