Crow for lunch (apology to Worley)

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Owning up to what? Hoping the team can be better than 4-8? Going forward with Worley was not and is not a viable option. He can't play in the SEC.

Peterman tried, failed, and got hurt. So move on to the next guy.

We should get a solid dose of either Ferguson or Dobbs, whichever one is most ready to play. Really the only shot we've got to make it to a bowl game.

the idiocy in your post is overwhelming, what makes you think either of them are better than Worley? Or, is it that you believe that Coach Jones is purposefully sabotaging the program by starting inferior talent? And, at what point on Saturday did you realize that starting someone other than Worley made sense? Please enlighten me as to your thought processes as to how anyone other than Worley is our only hope to make it to a bowl game.
 
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Worley has an SEC arm - 50 mph. That equals SEC and NFL speed. Worley has bad footwork at times. Worley is a half count off in getting the ball out to the spot. Bray did the same stuff, he just had more velocity and better receivers.

You will see Worley until the bye week, barring a collapse against USA. How about supporting your QB until/if they change?
:lolabove: at his NFL arm. Seeing people try to equate MPH for his arm strength is a good one.

And supportings got nothin' to with it....he simply can't play at this level. If he's the best we got, then so be it. But if he is, we're in pitiful shape, and the only SEC game we're likely to win is Kentucky.
 
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Did you watch Peterman against Austin Peay? He did nothing to deserve playing time.

Pretty sure Oregon was on their 3rd string by the time he got in there.

I know it sounds like I'm bashing Peterman, but it's just the honest truth. I wish nothing but the best for him, but it's looking like a transfer will be that option.

I saw Worley now for four games and there is nothing there that impresses me or most defenses apparantly.
 
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:lolabove: at his NFL arm. Seeing people try to equate MPH for his arm strength is a good one.

And supportings got nothin' to with it....he simply can't play at this level. If he's the best we got, then so be it. But if he is, we're in pitiful shape, and the only SEC game we're likely to win is Kentucky.

thanks Phil Simms!
 
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I wanted Worley out more than I wanted any one QB in. Took a shot and it didn't work. I don't think Pete should ever get another chance even if Worley continues struggling. Worley showed (or Pete did) that he's the best we have.

So I apologize as well and hope he improves enough to beat Mizzu Vandy Auburn & UK.
 
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I wanted Peterman to play. Not because I thought he was better, but because I'd seen enough of Worley to know I needed to see more of Peterman.
 
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Owning up to what? Hoping the team can be better than 4-8? Going forward with Worley was not and is not a viable option. He can't play in the SEC.

Peterman tried, failed, and got hurt. So move on to the next guy.

We should get a solid dose of either Ferguson or Dobbs, whichever one is most ready to play. Really the only shot we've got to make it to a bowl game.

What is this based on? The outstanding abilities that Ferguson and/or Dobbs have demonstrated, and you've witnessed, in SEC play?

No one knows how good those guys are. All we know is the coaches don't think they're good enough yet. If CBJ thought Dobbs would win us the game, you better believe he'd put him in.

His initial position was proven against Florida. Worley gives us the best chance to win because he doesn't lose us the game. Sure, a turnover or two, but not a 100% turnover rate, which Peterman had.

The backup QB is clearly the favorite among a lot of fans, even though Butch doesn't think he is ready .... I hope Dobbs or Ferguson turn out to be great, but they're true freshman as of today.
 
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While I am still not convinced JW can be an affective SEC QB, I need to admit being wrong about his arm. Worley threw the ball with more velocity and accuracy than I thought he was physically able to do. I truly believed that his physical abilities were just not at a SEC level. As hard as that Florida game was to watch, I have to say I have more optimism now in Worley's ability. Anyway, since I had no trouble coming on here and calling Worley a rag arm, I thought I should do the same when I realized I was wrong.
Side note- I am laughing out loud at those of you that stated we would be a better team without Bray. We beat Florida by 14+ with Bray in that game, and run for 200 yards due to the fear of the pass IMHO.

Bray won ZERO significant games in his TN career. He's going to beat FL on the road by 14? I don't think so.
 
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one of the freshmen is a backup now. one of them needs to take live snaps, whether they be important or garbage time. screw redshirts, one of em is gonna transfer anyway sooner or later
 
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Worley has an SEC arm - 50 mph. That equals SEC and NFL speed. Worley has bad footwork at times. Worley is a half count off in getting the ball out to the spot. Bray did the same stuff, he just had more velocity and better receivers.

You will see Worley until the bye week, barring a collapse against USA. How about supporting your QB until/if they change?

Worley does not have a SEC arm. I support Worley, but lets be honest. He isn't very good.
 
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I was a peterman fan since the spring I'll admit that. But it obviously isn't the right direction. I think Worley played pretty well in the second have and I gained a lot of confidence in him for the rest of the season.
 
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That throw to Croom though WAS an elite SEC level pass. He showed plenty of arm strength and accuracy on that one. I just wish he could replicate it with more regularity.

The TD in Oregon and the slant to Croom at gatorland were both good throws. He has it in him he just has to get out of his own way. He is still thinking too much. Once the balls snapped it has to be instinctive. Thinking kills performance. If you saw my golf game you'd know what I'm talking about:)
 
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I was a peterman fan since the spring I'll admit that. But it obviously isn't the right direction. I think Worley played pretty well in the second have and I gained a lot of confidence in him for the rest of the season.

YOU MUST BE JOKING RIGHT . Saturday proved that we might as well play RF or Dobbs cause what weve seen aint workin out . I am not knockin JW but rick clausen threw a better ball . Some one needs to tell the line "if you dont know the play hit the man in front of you "
 
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I do not see any reason to apology to Worley. He came in the second half fresh after a crazy first half. I didn't see Worley or Peterman as a viable option for the Vols. I would rather have went with one of the freshmen. Yes, a freshmen, it not unheard of like ESPN talking heads make it sound.
 
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Just because Peterman turned out to be a new level of bad doesn't make Worley any better than people thought he was. Worley is a great kid, but he doesn't have the skill set we need and he's just not good enough to be an SEC QB. The Gators brought a green 2* off the bench and he stepped right up, while our prized 4* completely collapsed. Peterman's done, and Worley's a square peg trying to fit into a round hole. We'll probably look to the future and take our chances on a freshman after the next beatdown. We have 2/3 of the season left and have to keep trying to find a spark.
 
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#43
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Lets face it vol nation Justin is the best option we have right now. After watching Peterman play we could be far worse. We just need to get behind Worley because he really is our best QB. GO VOLS!
 
#45
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Listen, Worley is pretty bad at QB. Just because he is better than Peterman isn't saying much. Our receivers have dropped their share of passes, but I have yet to see Worley hit many of them in stride either. Just because a ball hits a receiver in the hands doesn't mean it was a good throw. Most of the time, our receivers are having to adjust to the ball due to a poor throw.

I will eat my Crow as to thinking Peterman had to be better (in my defense I was thinking "How could he be worse?"), but until Worley wins a game that matters and begins throwing accurate passes I will save that crow for a later date.

Also, I am someone who still wants to see what a freshman can do. Will they make mistakes? Yes. Will they lose us a game? Probably. But we will have a very tough hill to climb against the bulk of our schedule with Worley as our starter (unless he pulls a Fulmer-Crompton to Kiffin-Crompton transformation). I think Butch didn't want to bring a freshman into Florida to keep their confidence high. I think we see one of them this week. Hopefully, I won't have to eat crow for this. Because if I do, we are going to have a tough time getting 6 wins...

Like I said, Worley's not (and likely never will be) a world-beater. But he has noticeably improved, in my opinion. He looked pretty decent in the second half against the best defense in the SEC. You might never notice it unless you've paid close attention, though, with how many drops the receivers have had.
 
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Yep, I was wrong. Wanted Peterman. Got Him. Saw enough to know that Worley, while not a world beater, is definitely the best of the two. Still, I'm anxious to see which red shirt gets burned, and how well that would be red shirt plays.
 
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Worley's arm isn't weak when he is confident and steps into a throw. When he throws off his back foot, or without conviction, or is flat out scared what he's doing or where it's going, his arm is inaccurate, he holds the ball, stares down receivers, and has a slow windup.
As far as those that think Butch made a change because of fan pressure, give me a break. From what Worley had shown, Butch didn't think he could lead the team to a win and took a risk with NP. It didn't work out. So what. At least we know what we have in Peterman now.
Last, I don't think some people realize how big a difference there is between practice and a game for many players. Some practice great but flat out can't play and you don't know till the lights are on. Others don't practice well but just play, as the backup qb for florida did against us.
 
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#49
I think our offense will become better and better the more they play together. It is a new offense, new QB, and new receivers. It takes time to create the right chemistry and timing. I think this team will continue to improve this year, and even pull off 1 or 2 surprises.

#1. 1 BIG win
#2. Bowl game
 
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