Crowell to Alabama State

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bamawriter said:
DA's comes to plea agreements for a multitude of reasons, not just because a case might be tough to get past a jury. This case probably will get plead out, but I doubt it's because the DA is worried about acquittal.

As for your theory of the defense: your logic is way off. Crowell has had legal issues before, so the "this is a good kid in a bad situation" argument will have holes in it. And they had been at a party, so it was totally possible for the car to stink of weed without there being any weed. The credibility of the cops wouldn't be damaged by that fact. Plus they did the search by the book, since Crowell gave them permission. As for whether or not any of his friends had ever seen him with a gun: it may help the defense a little. But the DA wouldn't need to prove a prior occurrence in order to prove the current one. He either possessed it or he didn't.

Again, it will probably by plead down, and Crowell will probably just get probation. But either way, he'll have a guilty verdict on his record.
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The prior incidents I know of are the two suspensions he had in the 2011 season. Are these the only two you know of? The 1st quarter of the Vandy game, IIRC, was because of a "coach's decision." I don't remember anything coming out concerning legal issues about that suspension. The other suspension was for one of their creampuff games, and it was because of a failed drug test administered by the University, which most likely would me inadmissible, because 1. it was conducted by the university, and 2. it's irrelevant to the charges.

Now, you say they did the search "by the book." How in the world do you know that? I haven't seen anything out that details the entire search of the car. The only people that know how the car was searched are the people that were there, i.e. those cops and Crowell and the other players. I haven't even seen if they called a drug dog in. It was at a road block on campus. One would think that a drug dog would be readily available at that time of night. But who knows?

DA's plead out a lot of cases, due to a high volume. That's the number one reason. There is a long list of secondary reasons, and some of them are involved in this case. That's why I think this one goes nowhere.

And Bama, I ain't mad at ya. Just trying to get my point across. I mean, what are we gonna do about it anyway? Virtually beat the crap out of each other? Seriously though, I enjoy MOST of what you bring here. Just be on the lookout for a big upset in Knoxville this year :)
 
#28
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Onefesternation. I believe they could use the prior failed drug tests against him if he testified in his own defense that he had never used drugs for impeachment purposes. I doubt his atty would allow him to testify though. In trial I could see his attorney offering alternative ways the gun ended up under his seat. In the end this case will be pled out with some kind of post conviction relief like expungement.
 
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onefesternation said:
And Bama, I ain't mad at ya. Just trying to get my point across. I mean, what are we gonna do about it anyway? Virtually beat the crap out of each other? Seriously though, I enjoy MOST of what you bring here.
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Cheers


Just be on the lookout for a big upset in Knoxville this year :)
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This is pretty low on my list of concerns.
 
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tim said:
Onefesternation. I believe they could use the prior failed drug tests against him if he testified in his own defense that he had never used drugs for impeachment purposes. I doubt his atty would allow him to testify though. In trial I could see his attorney offering alternative ways the gun ended up under his seat. In the end this case will be pled out with some kind of post conviction relief like expungement.
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I think most of us are in agreement that it won't go to trial. If it did go to trial, I'm not sure if he testifies or not. Doesn't seem to be the brightest of kids, but he may have us all fooled. His attorney would have to be an idiot to bring up anything about drugs with him on the stand. The DA wouldn't be able to ask anything about it, unless the defense "opened the door." At trial, it likely wouldn't be brought up at all, and then in closing arguments, the defense attorney would likely say all the stuff about, "we have a good kid here that has never...and he's always... and blah blah blah."
 
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onefesternation said:
I think most of us are in agreement that it won't go to trial. If it did go to trial, I'm not sure if he testifies or not. Doesn't seem to be the brightest of kids, but he may have us all fooled. His attorney would have to be an idiot to bring up anything about drugs with him on the stand. The DA wouldn't be able to ask anything about it, unless the defense "opened the door." At trial, it likely wouldn't be brought up at all, and then in closing arguments, the defense attorney would likely say all the stuff about, "we have a good kid here that has never...and he's always... and blah blah blah."
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I've seen it happen. If they open the door a tad he'd be toast. But, not likely to happen
 
#32
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Fake Isaiah ‏@FakeIsaiahCrow1
crow takin his talents to bama st...was thinkin bout morehead til crow found out morehead is jus sum dead doods name & not a school policy.
 
#36
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onefesternation said:
I wouldn't be surprised at all for this to plea out to almost nothing or for him to be found not guilty. Looks like he hired a big time defense attorney. Cops said they smelled marijuana, found none. Defense atty will kill them on that. Defense atty will also likely ask each player that was in the car if they saw Crowell with the gun or if they had ever seen him with a gun. They will probably say no, and try to say that someone must have planted it in his car, being that he is a high profile athlete. Still, I doubt it goes to trial and will most likely plea out.
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I would guess a UF booster planted the gun anyway
 
#37
#37
Cops smelled pot ? -- yeah sure - its just police BS to do a search of the car
 
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