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I seriosly hope we get some new blood. I'm tired of the Dave Cutcliffe talk. I guess it's an improvement over Sandy Randers but we need a complete transfusion. I want Jimmy Ray's and Pat Washington's heads too. Let's get some new blood...every other team seems to be able to find new, young, hot shot OC's....but everyone around Ktown wants to say "Who we gonna get?"........Just tired of the inbred crap over there.
 
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Well stated and oh so true Jmxvol. This is our chance to crawl out from a 20+ year old rock. That system was good BUT, we need another one. No Cutcliffe, go to the NFL!!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 10:55 AM
Well stated and oh so true Jmxvol. This is our chance to crawl out from a 20+ year old rock. That system was good BUT, we need another one. No Cutcliffe, go to the NFL!!!!!!
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So now after an entire season of harping on how much better Coach Cut was than Randy...giving us daily stats to "prove" your point...you don't think Cut can do the job?
 
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Originally posted by mikey@Nov 2, 2005 11:11 AM
So now after an entire season of harping on how much better Coach Cut was than Randy...giving us daily stats to "prove" your point...you don't think Cut can do the job?
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Did not say this! This is a chance for something BETTER than DC and something the SEC has not seen for 20+ years. Anything is better than RS, respectfully!
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 10:55 AM
Well stated and oh so true Jmxvol. This is our chance to crawl out from a 20+ year old rock. That system was good BUT, we need another one. No Cutcliffe, go to the NFL!!!!!!
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I understand your sentiment, Sarge, but to call our last 20+ years a rock? That's a bit of a stretch, not to mention a place that almost every other team in the country would like to be living. Not too many can claim a National Championship and 80% of their games over the past decade.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 11:34 AM
Did not say this! This is a chance for something BETTER than DC and something the SEC has not seen for 20+ years. Anything is better than RS, respectfully!
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In what direction do you want Phillip to go exactly?
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 11:34 AM
Did not say this! This is a chance for something BETTER than DC and something the SEC has not seen for 20+ years. Anything is better than RS, respectfully!
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Charlie Weiss thought enough of DC's abilities to hire him at Notre Dame..

Geez when a guy that was an integral part in winning 3 super bowls hires you must mean you know your stuff..


JMO
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Cut is a good coach and can really develop QBS, however if he is hired it will be same ole same ole.

What is with this loyalty and personal friend junk. College football is big business. There are a number a talented oc's out there who would gladly come to Tennessee. Tennessee needs new blood. no offense meant to Cut
 
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Originally posted by mikey@Nov 2, 2005 11:49 AM
In what direction do you want Phillip to go exactly?
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I'm with you. UT does not need to try and reinvent the program by hiring someone like Urban Meyer to come in and install a new offense. We need to get back to player development.
 
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Originally posted by VolunteerHillbilly@Nov 2, 2005 11:56 AM
I'm with you.  UT does not need to try and reinvent the program by hiring someone like Urban Meyer to come in and install a new offense.  We need to get back to player development.
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Amen
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 11:34 AM
Did not say this! This is a chance for something BETTER than DC and something the SEC has not seen for 20+ years. Anything is better than RS, respectfully!
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You know, I've sat back and watched you spew your venom for almost a year now. And that's exactly what it is, venom.

You wouldn't be happy if they brought Jesus on board as the offensive coordinator. You're obviously just that type of fan who always sees the negative, the glass half empty.

Well, for your information, Coach Cutcliffe produced the #2 QB in the draft in 94. His next charge, Peyton was the #1 draft pick in 98, and his next 4 year work in progress, Eli, was #1 in the draft in 04.

I'm sick of your constant harping.

You have absolutely no grounds to bash Cutcliffe.

You need to get a life.
 
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 2, 2005 11:40 AM
I understand your sentiment, Sarge, but to call our last 20+ years a rock?  That's a bit of a stretch, not to mention a place that almost every other team in the country would like to be living.  Not too many can claim a National Championship and 80% of their games over the past decade.
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I did not mean it the way you took that. I just think we need change in systems
 
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Originally posted by OldVol@Nov 2, 2005 12:24 PM
You know, I've sat back and watched you spew your venom for almost a year now. And that's exactly what it is, venom.

You wouldn't be happy if they brought Jesus on board as the offensive coordinator. You're obviously just that type of fan who always sees the negative, the glass half empty.

Well, for your information, Coach  Cutcliffe produced the #2 QB in the draft in 94. His next charge, Peyton was the #1 draft pick in 98, and his next 4 year work in progress, Eli, was #1 in the draft in 04.

I'm sick of your constant harping.

You have absolutely no grounds to bash Cutcliffe.

You need to get a life.
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Please quote my DC bashing! :lolabove: I have blown his horn all year. I just think we can go a newer, fresher direction.
 
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Originally posted by OldVol@Nov 2, 2005 11:24 AM
You know, I've sat back and watched you spew your venom for almost a year now. And that's exactly what it is, venom.

You wouldn't be happy if they brought Jesus on board as the offensive coordinator. You're obviously just that type of fan who always sees the negative, the glass half empty.

Well, for your information, Coach  Cutcliffe produced the #2 QB in the draft in 94. His next charge, Peyton was the #1 draft pick in 98, and his next 4 year work in progress, Eli, was #1 in the draft in 04.

I'm sick of your constant harping.

You have absolutely no grounds to bash Cutcliffe.

You need to get a life.
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What kind of offense does Jesus run?? :victory:
 
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Originally posted by rockydoc@Nov 2, 2005 5:46 PM
What kind of offense does Jesus run?? :victory:
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He's high on the victory formation. :D

Point is, it doesn't matter who we get for some of these guys. All they want to do is gripe and moan like a bunch of little girls.
 
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I think almost everyone is in agreement that David Cutcliffe is an excellent QB coach, great at developing talent. I think the question is do people want to see another O.C. with the same system and philosophy that we have now. Just with better execution, talent development, etc.

I think many vol fans would like to see new blood with a different approach. Someone who would develop the offense where it is lacking, like add counters, misdirection, play action, etc. Someone who is going to bring a new wrinkle, to make it less predictable, more creative.
 
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Part of me would like to get someone new. But in Coach Cut you get a proven commodity in the SEC. Even the Urban Legend 'um Meyer admitted that he had made a mistake and his Offense with Chris Leak wouldn't work against the great SEC defenses. If we were to go to the no defense PAC-10 to get a OC. It's no gurantee that he could have success in the SEC. To me the more important agenda should be getting good quality position coaches. Coaches that have a proven track record in developing talent. It doesn't matter how good of a system is in place, or how much talent you have. As we know from this year it doesn't matter how much talent you have if it's not developed properly. If Cutcliff gets the job then we can be comfortable that our QB's will get better. I'm more concerned with WR's and OL. Auburn seems to run a similar offense to ours. They are well coached and it shows up on the field. Georgia doesn't wow you with offense, but everyone thinks Richt is a great coach. In the SEC, especially the upper teams, if you get out with a win you've done pretty good offensively.
 
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WE JUST WANT TO WIN THE OFFENSE JUST NEED TO PERFORM AND NOT FUMBLE THE DAMN BALL NOT DROP PASSES JUST RUN THE PLAYS THEY WILL WORK
 
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i dont think we need a complete overhaul on offense but almost. now just get rid of washington and stephens. its been proven that stephens lowers rushing stats with his teams. wouldnt have a prob with cutcliffe comin back though.
 
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Originally posted by volsfn@Nov 2, 2005 8:50 PM
WE JUST WANT TO WIN THE OFFENSE JUST NEED TO PERFORM AND NOT FUMBLE THE DAMN BALL NOT DROP PASSES JUST RUN THE PLAYS THEY WILL WORK
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:hi: I couldn't agree more. I have watched the Tennessee offense very closely for many years and the play calling has been excellent. Many, many times the right play has been called or checked to. The receivers have been open. The problems have been, dropped passes, overthrown balls, fumbles or penalties.

No offensive co-ordinator can overcome poor play. :cool:

Pound the Rock and Run to Victory!!!! :run: :td:
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Nov 2, 2005 3:10 PM
Please quote my DC bashing! :lolabove: I have blown his horn all year. I just think we can go a newer, fresher direction.
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Sorry Sarge, I've got to disagree on this one. Only Norm Chow has developed better QBs in the last decade than Cutcliffe.

Andy Kelly is the career leading passer in Arena football. Set passing records as UT.

He turned Heath Shuler into a Heisman contender and 1st quarterback taken in the NFL draft.

Peyton Manning was the 1st overall player taken in the draft and has 2 NFL MVPs. Set the current passing records at UT.

Tee Martin played in the NFL for 4 seasons (pension) and is currently in the CFL. Led Vols to a national title.

Romaro Miller has spent time in the NFL and is now in the CFL. Set records as Ole Miss that were later broken by...

Eli Manning was the 1st player taken in the NFL draft.

Compare that to the following Tennessee quarterbacks and their development since '98....
Casey Clausen
AJ Suggs
James Banks
Brent Shaeffer
Erik Ainge
Rick Clausen
 
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Nov 2, 2005 11:40 AM
I understand your sentiment, Sarge, but to call our last 20+ years a rock?  That's a bit of a stretch, not to mention a place that almost every other team in the country would like to be living.  Not too many can claim a National Championship and 80% of their games over the past decade.
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A NC and 80% is not good enough because UT is the greatest program on the face of the earth, have had the most talent in the country every year, every highly recruited kid in the country is fighting to get in, and if it were'nt for our crappy coaching staff we would have won at least 10 SEC and 8 NC's by now. (sarcasm/off)
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Nov 2, 2005 6:07 PM
I think almost everyone is in agreement that David Cutcliffe is an excellent QB coach, great at developing talent.  I think the question is do people want to see another O.C. with the same system and philosophy that we have now. Just with better execution, talent development, etc. 

I think many vol fans would like to see new blood with a different approach.  Someone who would develop the offense where it is lacking, like add counters, misdirection, play action, etc. Someone who is going to bring a new wrinkle, to make it less predictable, more creative.
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We don't run counters, misdirection, or play action now? I swear, I think some people have "all we do is run up the middle" embedded so deeply in thier heads that they don't pay attention to what is actually called during the game. The system and philosophy we have now wins games when properly executed.
 
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Originally posted by holdemvol@Nov 3, 2005 3:53 PM
We don't run counters, misdirection, or play action now?  I swear, I think some people have "all we do is run up the middle" embedded so deeply in thier heads that they don't pay attention to what is actually called during the game.  The system and philosophy we have now wins games when properly executed.
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I agree with you.... it seems as if some of the posters don't even watch the games... just read about it in the Sunday paper?
 
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