Cutcliffe's Play Calling

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#51
I agree, Cut's play calling was atrocious. I mean, we just kept throwing the WR screen, and he didn't even run a trick play! [/sarcasm]

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Lexvol said:
The deeper more talented team won the ballgame. Ainge looked ok, but I still expect more from a junior QB at UT. I will qualify that by saying he had little protection, but he underthrew three times on big plays and rushed himself even when there was time to throw.

Not only was UT unable to run the ball, but they were also ineffective getting the ball to Chris Brown (he looked a little lost out there). The tight end becomes more important when you cannot run the football.

I was dissappointed that UT seemed to play not to lose once they got ahead by 10 points. At the risk of rehashing other arguments, it probably makes it harder to recruit athletes at skill positions when they think you are going to sit on a 10 point lead.

IMO Florida had more at stake in this game than UT, because this is widely considered to be a rebuilding year for the Vols. That being considered, I think UT should have been more aggresive with the lead, and more willing to at least plug Coker in a little more often. I was hoping for a few more wrinkles in the offensive game plan than what I saw.
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Lex, nice post...especially that last paragraph.
 
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rwemyss said:
I agree, Cut's play calling was atrocious. I mean, we just kept throwing the WR screen, and he didn't even run a trick play! [/sarcasm]

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:lolabove: yeah, but i think they do have a point about the late 3rd qtr and 4th qtr play calling on 1st down...it was conservative in nature, especially considering we hadn't run the ball effectively all night...over all i think he did a good job, i think Cut would tell you in private he'd like to have those last two series back...

but that didn't lose the game...we couldn't get a stop when we needed to.
 
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rwemyss said:
I agree, Cut's play calling was atrocious. I mean, we just kept throwing the WR screen, and he didn't even run a trick play! [/sarcasm]

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I don't know that anyone saw any atrocity in the playcalling Saturday as you sarcastically suggest. There is a difference between calling a trick play and being aggressive with the lead. This is not a call for heads to roll. I am just hopeful that this staff begins to put its foot on the gas pedal once they have the lead. If you cannot run the ball, line up five wide and start throwing it around.

That is just another way to keep the linebackers out of the offensive backfield.
 
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#55
Basically our o-line just didn't play well. We couldn't run the ball an inch, and it was just against seven on defense. Florida never had to bring another guy up to protect the run, their front 7 did it alone. Therefor, not running well, hurt us in the passing game. Our offensive line just wasn't getting any push at all. And, like many said, Cutcliffe's play calling got a little conservative in the second half. I understand showing run to keep the respectable and to run the clock, but like already said, he didn't mix it up well, and everyone knew we were running on first down.

To stay positive, we are 3 games under cutcliffe and we're miles ahead where we were under Sanders. There's still time, and i think every day we're improving. I definetely trust coach-cut more than sanders. Our offensive line must pick it up though.
 
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Bottom line...you are not going to win any games when you have negative yards rushing. Period. We very nearly won despite our terrible rushing effort. Last year, we would have lost by 20.

Having said that, it is still no consolation for a loss to Florida.
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't know that anyone saw any atrocity in the playcalling Saturday as you sarcastically suggest. There is a difference between calling a trick play and being aggressive with the lead. This is not a call for heads to roll. I am just hopeful that this staff begins to put its foot on the gas pedal once they have the lead. If you cannot run the ball, line up five wide and start throwing it around.

That is just another way to keep the linebackers out of the offensive backfield.
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I definetly agree with this, teams that are used to scoring alot of points in a game are more than likely going to score alot. There is no need to ever let up on offense we should be looking to score a TD every time the offense takes the field. I think this also does tie in with the recruiting issue too. Of course a big offensive talent is going to want to go to USC,Texas, or some team that is going to give them more highlight film.
 
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ConMan said:
I definetly agree with this, teams that are used to scoring alot of points in a game are more than likely going to score alot. There is no need to ever let up on offense we should be looking to score a TD every time the offense takes the field. I think this also does tie in with the recruiting issue too. Of course a big offensive talent is going to want to go to USC,Texas, or some team that is going to give them more highlight film.
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You guys can't seriously be on Cutliffe's back for his play calling. This is just crazy. He did everything we wanting our offense to do since he has been gone the other night. Reverse passes, throwing down the field, not to many screens, and he kept the D honest by running the ball. It is not cutliffe's fault hardesty couldnt pick up a yard and that the line blew the blocking assignment on Siler at the end of the game to make it 3rd and 16 instead of 3rd and 10 or maybe a first down. we were in position to win the game last week and the line let us down, not the playcalling.
 
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Lexvol said:
I don't know that anyone saw any atrocity in the playcalling Saturday as you sarcastically suggest. There is a difference between calling a trick play and being aggressive with the lead. This is not a call for heads to roll. I am just hopeful that this staff begins to put its foot on the gas pedal once they have the lead. If you cannot run the ball, line up five wide and start throwing it around.

That is just another way to keep the linebackers out of the offensive backfield.
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I read the first few pages of this thread differently than you. I agree that we got terribly conservative with the lead, and I thought "johnny ball" myself. HOWEVER, I think you have to look more towards the rest of the season, trying to see what the offense can/can't do as well. I think Cut laid the challenge down to his O-line and backs to tighten their belts and get the job done. They failed. It is a learning experience that will help him make them better over the course of the next few weeks. As so many have stated here in the first two weeks of the season, this is a marathon, not a sprint. We may have just taken an L to avoid 3 down the line. That's just my opinion. Much like people got ahead of themselves after the Cal game, stating that the Vols are back, people are jumping the gun this week, claiming our coaches can't do their jobs.
 
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rwemyss said:
I read the first few pages of this thread differently than you. I agree that we got terribly conservative with the lead, and I thought "johnny ball" myself. HOWEVER, I think you have to look more towards the rest of the season, trying to see what the offense can/can't do as well. I think Cut laid the challenge down to his O-line and backs to tighten their belts and get the job done. They failed. It is a learning experience that will help him make them better over the course of the next few weeks. As so many have stated here in the first two weeks of the season, this is a marathon, not a sprint. We may have just taken an L to avoid 3 down the line. That's just my opinion. Much like people got ahead of themselves after the Cal game, stating that the Vols are back, people are jumping the gun this week, claiming our coaches can't do their jobs.
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This is definetely a valid point. I'm still not totally happy with the playcalling, but it wasn't bad, and i'm definetely not jumpin on his back. trust me, i'd take him any day over sanders. and, again, we're only 3 weeks under coach-cut. give it time and we'll be solid. he doesn't have a manning, but the man knows how to put it in the end zone. good points by everyone though
 
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I'm not saying anything bad about the playcalling on saturday in particular. I'm just saying on average UT doesn't put teams away like they could. You can say that Fulmer does it out of respect if you want but if team can't stop you from scoring 50+ that is their fault. I just think it is the way the game is played now. Hang as many points as you possibly can on your opponent.
 
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ConMan said:
I'm not saying anything bad about the playcalling on saturday in particular. I'm just saying on average UT doesn't put teams away like they could. You can say that Fulmer does it out of respect if you want but if team can't stop you from scoring 50+ that is their fault. I just think it is the way the game is played now. Hang as many points as you possibly can on your opponent.
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I agree about that. One of the things they try and do is be conservative to "not make a mistake"... same problem on D. If you've stopped them the entire game, don't go "prevent" that just lets them move the ball! If you execute well on offense, in the passing game, you shouldn't be THAT worried about making a game losing mistake.
 
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