Cynthia Tucker writes Dumbest Article Ever

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This is called starting a thread:

Cynthia Tucker writes Dumbest Article Ever

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Obama tried too hard to work with Republicans | Cynthia Tucker

Between the basic premise and this gem:

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Obama didn’t take every possible opportunity to pin the economic mess on his predecessor.

The reader comments are pretty funny.
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This is called trolling

Double major in economics and accounting father is an economist. Would you like to give your credentials.
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This is called getting pwned and running to daddy

Ed12111 said:
Jeez dude, first I thought you were trolling, now I know you just think way too binary. I never said Fannie Mae and all that had a role in the economic downturn. In fact, I went out of my way to say they didn't and you were spouting some nonsensical Beckian conspiracy. You're trying so hard to twist what I say it's kinda strange.
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BeecherVol said:
Social Security?

I will stop at this one. You do realize in a few years this is no more than a tax on those paying in.

Im not big on spending 20$ to get a 5$ hamburger in return.
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How do you think a huge percentage would have done in their old age were it not for social security the past 60 years. Maybe you don't know anybody who didn't have a nest egg, but it would not have been pretty.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
This is called starting a thread:



This is called trolling



This is called getting pwned and running to daddy
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That garbled mess is as nonsensical as all your other posts.
Please, refer me to another book who's direct premise is in complete disagreement with your position though.
 
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Ed12111 said:
How do you think a huge percentage would have done in their old age were it not for social security the past 60 years. Maybe you don't know anybody who didn't have a nest egg, but it would not have been pretty.
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The ole "save the people from themselves" line.

My grandparents did pretty well, of course they took the responsibility to. Im sure all the money he never drew out will go to a good cause.

Makes a man wonder why SS is bankrupt.
Could have something to do with the trustworthy politicians of the day using it as a slush fund.
 
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BeecherVol said:
The ole "save the people from themselves" line.

My grandparents did pretty well, of course they took the responsibility to. Im sure all the money he never drew out will go to a good cause.

Makes a man wonder why SS is bankrupt.
Could have something to do with the trustworthy politicians of the day using it as a slush fund.
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Well then if your grandparents did well. First off SS isn't bankrupt, and the funding problems are very correctable. Secondly, a personal slush fund? You've gone off the deep end. Obama and the Bilderbergs haven't been renting yachts on your SS. Perhaps, (crazy idea I know) we are beginning to have a lot more old people than before.
 
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Ed12111 said:
Well then if your grandparents did well. First off SS isn't bankrupt, and the funding problems are very correctable. Secondly, a personal slush fund? You've gone off the deep end. Obama and the Bilderbergs haven't been renting yachts on your SS. Perhaps, (crazy idea I know) we are beginning to have a lot more old people than before.
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As to the bold.
I tell you what. I will keep what I pay in SS, invest it to my choosing.

You give yours to the politicians who have your best interests at heart.

And I will beat you 2 to 1 in turnover.

My grandaddy did both. SS fell behind more than 2 to 1 when he started drawing. He could have took what he paid in and doubled his retirement.
 
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Basically I trust my self with my money better than I trust my money with those that have nothing to lose.
 
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The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
 
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Ed12111 said:
The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
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awesome, simply awesome.
 
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Ed12111 said:
That garbled mess is as nonsensical as all your other posts.
Please, refer me to another book who's direct premise is in complete disagreement with your position though.
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I had a feeling one sentance yes or no questions were too difficult for you.
 
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Ed12111 said:
The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
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Outstanding.
 
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Ed12111 said:
The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
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so if you had told our grandparents that they were responsible for their own retirement they would have ended up broke? Somehow I'm pretty sure that generation would have manned up and made it ok. Instead they were sold a program that was seen as a retirement fund and it's turning out that it never will be. I have a feeling that many my age are planning their retirement based around never getting a cent from SS.
 
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utvolpj said:
so if you had told our grandparents that they were responsible for their own retirement they would have ended up broke? Somehow I'm pretty sure that generation would have manned up and made it ok. Instead they were sold a program that was seen as a retirement fund and it's turning out that it never will be. I have a feeling that many my age are planning their retirement based around never getting a cent from SS.
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No they wouldn't. They would have quit and left it up to the government to deal with, like they did with the Japs, and the Nazis.
 
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Ed12111 said:
The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
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It has nothing to do with "caring about other people".

But lets assume for a second it does. Are you saying that my SS pay in is not mine and is going toward caring for others?
 
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The bottom line here is dems and repubs failed us.

To state fannie and freddie weren't part of the problem is faulty at best.
 
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Ed12111 said:
That is an indisputable fact. Look at the commodity futures modernization act in 2000 as but one example. Allan Greenspan himself largely behind the push of unregulated securities has admitted(partially) his mistake.
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You're not seriously trying to link commodity futures to the issues here. That's borderline retarded, just as posting your weak ass bonafides was.
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volinbham said:
Another blanket statement.

Deregulation in and of itself is a misnomer. Regulations change - sometimes looser (traditional dereg) and sometimes tighter (regulation?), sometimes just different to favor one group differently than in the prior regulation.

It is definitely true that Democrats pushed for more lax lending rules. Is that deregulation or more regulation?

The parties aren't as monolithic as you suggest.
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I'm shocked that you bothered to even respond to something so senseless.
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Ed12111 said:
The entire bit about the expansion of Fannie. What a lame attempt to blame the poor. Wall street was just a poor innocent bystander and these knucklehead poors thought they deserved homeownership. The creation of countless trillions in CDO's backed by money that didn't exist and pushed off on ignorant investors had nothing to do with the recession. Nope it was because the government slightly encouraged homeownership.
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This is utterly lost.
You need some homework - badly.
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Ed12111 said:
The point is your grandparents seemed to have a decent amount of money. Many people wouldn't have enough money. If you can't find it in you to care about other people, or are only capable of coming up with quips like self-reliance is frowned upon. Then at least realize the economy and world is more complex than I got mine I'll be fine. You don't see how having a large amount of money-less old people would be a problem for society? Unless you literally left them to starve, if would be more expensive to then provide for them than just doing something like SS.
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so in your opinion the dems and fannie and freddie encouragimg people who don't have a lot of money to buy homes they couldn't afford (using the exact same stupid logic you are using above) was not a major factor in the housing collapse? just clarifying.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
What do you mean? The gov't willy nilly deregulated the commodity futures market and killed the economy. Look at what a pork belly straddle will do to an economy.
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nah. CDSs blew up all by themselves. The housing market had nothing to do with it. Haven't you watched trading places? Frozen orange juice is the key man!
 
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Seriously, did we all act like this when we had newly minted degrees or were looking at further education? I hope to goodness I appeared more grounded in reality.
 
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