Dale Ellis will have his number retired

#26
#26
One of the games best pure shooters. Right there with Bird, Miller, & Allen.
Well deserved. Congratulations, Dale!
 
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VOL6479 said:
Wasn't he more of a post up under the basket player in college? Then when he got to the NBA he completely changed his game and developed into a great shooter.
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He could play down low but was a shooter .
 
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He was a lot more than a shooter. He was fundamentally exceptional in all areas. He shut down Ralph Sampson completely in an NCAA tourney game (which we had won, but let it slip away at the end with some nervous FT shooting).
 
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Dale was playing my freshman year in 1982, and he was fluid grace in motion! :rock:

He was a forward then I believe and he was money when he got the ball.

Overdue and Congrats Dale!!! :hi:
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Iirc there's a clause that allows players to be voted in that don't meet the criteria.
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Screw the criteria. Lofton has to see #5 in the rafters one day soon, not the roughly 30 years from now like Ellis waited. Kid was the best college shooter I think I've ever seen.
 
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Did Ellis meet 3 of the 5, or did he get in on an exception, because the article only discusses 2 criteria that he met - SEC POY and stats leader?
 
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I don't post on here very much but, for you younger guys, Dale Ellis was a truly great player at our beloved school. He is one of our very few first team AP all americans. He was a 6'7 PF and many times he was our center. His ability to score and defend on the low block was nothing short of amazing for his size. One of the most impressive things about his bb resume is that he almost never took shots outside of ten feet in college and was a dominant inside force yet, when he retired from the NBA he had made for 3 pointers than anyone in history. If you never saw him play at TN then it's hard to explain how good that dude was. Google the AP first team all american team from 1983 and that's all you need to see. Congrats to you Dale Ellis..........it's very much deserving!
 
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VOL6479 said:
Wasn't he more of a post up under the basket player in college? Then when he got to the NBA he completely changed his game and developed into a great shooter.
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The reason why, IMHO he was the second best vol hoopster, behind only Bernard King, all time. Anyone who can go from being a post player as a collegiate player and then completely reinvent their game and become one of the best three-point shooters in NBA history deserves the highest of praise.
 
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I had a Dale Ellis #3 Seattle Supersonics Jersey and his Supersonics poster "The Silent Assassin" hanging on my wall as a kid.

First Vols game I ever saw in person, Dale played. Funny what you remember from all those years ago, but for some reason I never forgot that Dale came from Marietta, Georgia because John Ward told me so every game when announcing the lineups.

Ernie/Bernie was just before my time. So, my all time favorite Vols include Dale Ellis, Tony White, Allan Houston, Chris Lofton, and Dyron Nix.
 
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What happens if Stokes becomes national POY next year, and carries us to a NC?
 
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Neylandboy said:
I don't post on here very much but, for you younger guys, Dale Ellis was a truly great player at our beloved school. He is one of our very few first team AP all americans. He was a 6'7 PF and many times he was our center. His ability to score and defend on the low block was nothing short of amazing for his size. One of the most impressive things about his bb resume is that he almost never took shots outside of ten feet in college and was a dominant inside force yet, when he retired from the NBA he had made for 3 pointers than anyone in history. If you never saw him play at TN then it's hard to explain how good that dude was. Google the AP first team all american team from 1983 and that's all you need to see. Congrats to you Dale Ellis..........it's very much deserving!
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I'm with you, but I'll add that during Dale's senior year, Devoe would sometimes go to a bigger lineup and pop him out on the wing for a few 15-18 footers. There was a vocal contingent of fans who griped every time he did this, but I was always impressed that it didn't seem to have much affect on Dale's accuracy.

And for those who didn't see him, Dale was double and triple teamed nearly every time down the floor but had such a quick release that it really didn't much matter. 65% his junior year, most often just turning on the defenders from 8-10 feet out. He was so deadly it surprised you when he missed.
 
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ukvols said:
Did Ellis meet 3 of the 5, or did he get in on an exception, because the article only discusses 2 criteria that he met - SEC POY and stats leader?
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1. SEC POY (2)
2. All-American
3. UT's single season and career FG% leader
 
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Not trying to move the spotlight from our guys, but I found this interesting from a long term standpoint.

I found the list for that other team north of the border. Interestingly, they are down to only "16" remaining "legal" jersey numbers for current players. If my math is correct. With 14-15 players on a roster, they dont have a lotta choices left. I guess that's why they just use retired numbers anyway. Jon Hood wears the Kyle Macy #4. Kinda loses the point of "retired" IMO.

Five numbers have been retired x2, and one retired x3. Several are currently non-acceptable (>5) numbers.

Retired Jerseys

That said, I hope big blue enjoyed their 30pt beatdown at TBA! :eek:lol:
 
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I always thought it was a joke that Steven Pearl never changed numbers after they retired Grunfeld's 22 during his sophomore season.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I always thought it was a joke that Steven Pearl never changed numbers after they retired Grunfeld's 22 during his sophomore season.
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That's one problem we didn't have retiring Bernard's number. No one wants to wear #53. Not sure why he wore it, actually.
 
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GoobieVol said:
Yeah I'm sure his Dad didnt have anything to do with that.
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You know, I bet he didn't. Most logical assumption would be that Steven refused to change it, as it he is a well-known doucher that specializes in disrespecting people.
 
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livefaith said:
Not trying to move the spotlight from our guys, but I found this interesting from a long term standpoint.

I found the list for that other team north of the border. Interestingly, they are down to only "16" remaining "legal" jersey numbers for current players. If my math is correct. With 14-15 players on a roster, they dont have a lotta choices left. I guess that's why they just use retired numbers anyway. Jon Hood wears the Kyle Macy #4. Kinda loses the point of "retired" IMO.

Five numbers have been retired x2, and one retired x3. Several are currently non-acceptable (>5) numbers.

Retired Jerseys

That said, I hope big blue enjoyed their 30pt beatdown at TBA! :eek:lol:
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I don't think KY has ever retired numbers - just jerseys. So, they hang a player's number but don't restrict its use.
 
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