Dan Mullen is at it again - Transfer Portal

[BowlBrother85]

So, does Cade Mays make you wanna re-think this whole line of attack? Mays simultaneously enters portal and commits to Tennessee. There’s absolutely zero chance UT wasn’t in contact with him before he hit the portal. And I’m not blaming or accusing Pruitt, it’s a helluva get by him, awesome job on his part.

It makes it look even more silly to try and bash Mullen for using “back channels” and “contacting before they enter” portal, etc. That was always bs.

Congrats again to Pruitt and Vol Nation on landing Mays.

Maybe you have a point... and maybe you don't. It's not exactly apples to apples. Pruitt was recruiting the little brother. So, of course there was contact with the Mays family.

 

[Jaws]

Maybe you have a point... and maybe you don't. It's not exactly apples to apples. Pruitt was recruiting the little brother. So, of course there was contact with the Mays family.

There you go with remote NCAA bylaws.

It’s not a big deal and I’m not trying to be argumentative. This stuff goes on, way more than any of us know I’m sure.

It’s all good man, congrats on Mays. Shoulda be at UT all along.

 

[Nerwen Aldarion]

I mean am I crazy that I always assumed transfers were contacted by programs before officially entering the portal? I don’t see how that is a big deal.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

I mean am I crazy that I always assumed transfers were contacted by programs before officially entering the portal? I don’t see how that is a big deal.

It’s not.

 

[Roustabout]

So, does Cade Mays make you wanna re-think this whole line of attack? Mays simultaneously enters portal and commits to Tennessee. There’s absolutely zero chance UT wasn’t in contact with him before he hit the portal. And I’m not blaming or accusing Pruitt, it’s a helluva get by him, awesome job on his part.

It makes it look even more silly to try and bash Mullen for using “back channels” and “contacting before they enter” portal, etc. That was always bs.

Congrats again to Pruitt and Vol Nation on landing Mays.

They can be in contact as long as it’s initiated by player. Since his dad played here and his brother is a signeee, well. How many of Mullen’s meet that standard? I’ll tell you. None

 

[Gatornator]

They can be in contact as long as it’s initiated by player. Since his dad played here and his brother is a signeee, well. How many of Mullen’s meet that standard? I’ll tell you. None

None? Really? Lets see:

Trevon Grimes: Transfer initiated by him. He talked to Meyer because he wanted to be closer to family in florida with health issues.

Van Jefferson: ole miss ncaa punishment made him look outside. He contacted mullen because he was recruited by him before at MSU.

Greenard: He was recruited by grantham at Louisville, loved playing for him and sought Grantham out as soon as he graduated to be a grad tranafer. Again initiated by the player.

Do I need to keep going or will you still pretend that Pruitt is holier than thou and Mullen is the devil?

 

[rjd970]

None? Really? Lets see:

Trevon Grimes: Transfer initiated by him. He talked to Meyer because he wanted to be closer to family in florida with health issues.

Van Jefferson: ole miss ncaa punishment made him look outside. He contacted mullen because he was recruited by him before at MSU.

Greenard: He was recruited by grantham at Louisville, loved playing for him and sought Grantham out as soon as he graduated to be a grad tranafer. Again initiated by the player.

Do I need to keep going or will you still pretend that Pruitt is holier than thou and Mullen is the devil?

In all fairness to his example, unless you can point to one who’s father played at Florida and currently has a brother playing for them, then no, you can’t name a Florida player that fits that description. Of course there was contact, and there would be even if he wasn’t going into the portal. His family is a Tennessee legacy.

 

[Roustabout]

None? Really? Lets see:

Trevon Grimes: Transfer initiated by him. He talked to Meyer because he wanted to be closer to family in florida with health issues.

Van Jefferson: ole miss ncaa punishment made him look outside. He contacted mullen because he was recruited by him before at MSU.

Greenard: He was recruited by grantham at Louisville, loved playing for him and sought Grantham out as soon as he graduated to be a grad tranafer. Again initiated by the player.

Do I need to keep going or will you still pretend that Pruitt is holier than thou and Mullen is the devil?

I have no problem with Mullen, but comparing those to Mays is ludicrous.

 

[Gatornator]

I have no problem with Mullen, but comparing those to Mays is ludicrous.

I'm naming transfers that were initiated by the player, which he said would be ok. Not saying they are all legacy with family inhouse.

 

[Jaws]

How many of Mullen’s meet that standard? None.

Prove it.

 

[Roustabout]

Prove it.

None of the transfers have a brother is curreny a Florida signee and are from Gainesville and whose dad played for the school.

 

[Jaws]

None of the transfers have a brother is curreny a Florida signee and are from Gainesville and whose dad played for the school.

So that somehow proves Mullen did something against the rules?

Look, Pruitt did a nice job leveraging whatever relationships existed to land Mays and better his program. Mullen has mastered the exact same thing. Maybe the relationships aren’t brother and dad, but they don’t have to be. They can be “good friends” for example. When Brenton Cox became so dissatisfied at Georgia and entered the portal, he reached out to two of his good friends on the Florida roster, Emory Jones and Zach Carter. Both were guys he grew up around and played with back home in Georgia. Those players put him in touch with the coaching staff and Mullen took care of the rest.

Both scenarios are perfectly within the rules. So what’s the problem?

 

[Roustabout]

So that somehow proves Mullen did something against the rules?

Look, Pruitt did a nice job leveraging whatever relationships existed to land Mays and better his program. Mullen has mastered the exact same thing. Maybe the relationships aren’t brother and dad, but they don’t have to be. They can be “good friends” for example. When Brenton Cox became so dissatisfied at Georgia and entered the portal, he reached out to two of his good friends on the Florida roster, Emory Jones and Zach Carter. Both were guys he grew up around and played with back home in Georgia. Those players put him in touch with the coaching staff and Mullen took care of the rest.

Both scenarios are perfectly within the rules. So what’s the problem?

I didn’t say Mullen did anything against the rules.

 

[ShoalCreekVol]

None? Really? Lets see:

Trevon Grimes: Transfer initiated by him. He talked to Meyer because he wanted to be closer to family in florida with health issues.

Van Jefferson: ole miss ncaa punishment made him look outside. He contacted mullen because he was recruited by him before at MSU.

Greenard: He was recruited by grantham at Louisville, loved playing for him and sought Grantham out as soon as he graduated to be a grad tranafer. Again initiated by the player.

Do I need to keep going or will you still pretend that Pruitt is holier than thou and Mullen is the devil?

I see the problem here. This is "Volnation." You are no doubt looking for a board called "SwampGas."

 

[Atlanta917]

So that somehow proves Mullen did something against the rules?

Look, Pruitt did a nice job leveraging whatever relationships existed to land Mays and better his program. Mullen has mastered the exact same thing. Maybe the relationships aren’t brother and dad, but they don’t have to be. They can be “good friends” for example. When Brenton Cox became so dissatisfied at Georgia and entered the portal, he reached out to two of his good friends on the Florida roster, Emory Jones and Zach Carter. Both were guys he grew up around and played with back home in Georgia. Those players put him in touch with the coaching staff and Mullen took care of the rest.

Both scenarios are perfectly within the rules. So what’s the problem?

Using the portal to grab a 5* legacy transfer whose brother attends the school is a bit different than using the portal because you constantly miss on recruiting targets. It’s not the apples to apples comparison that you’re trying to make it out to be.

 

[Jaws]

Using the portal to grab a 5* legacy transfer whose brother attends the school is a bit different than using the portal because you constantly miss on recruiting targets. It’s not the apples to apples comparison that you’re trying to make it out to be.

Your bias shows in this post. When you said “using the portal because you constantly miss on recruiting targets,” that’s your hyperbole. Mullen is using the portal as a way to improve his roster, and the results of those players validate that; Jon Greenard, Van Jefferson, Jean Delance, Tre Grimes and others.

That’s being a good coach, and a great manager of the program. And even if you’re right, which you aren’t, but let’s assume your premise, that Mullen is making up for misses on the recruiting trail, is correct. What the hell is wrong with that? It’s not illegal. You build the roster in the best way you can. If you miss on a target or two and need to supplement via the portal, then go for it. Pruitt missed on some o-line targets, so he grabbed Mays when the opportunity arose. Same deal. Was Aubrey Solomon related to someone at UT?? When Pruitt picked him up from Michigan via the portal, were you and everyone else attaching something nefarious to that, or claiming it’s because he can’t recruit?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Love this show, please carry on.

 

[Atlanta917]

Your bias shows in this post. When you said “using the portal because you constantly miss on recruiting targets,” that’s your hyperbole. Mullen is using the portal as a way to improve his roster, and the results of those players validate that; Jon Greenard, Van Jefferson, Jean Delance, Tre Grimes and others.

That’s being a good coach, and a great manager of the program. And even if you’re right, which you aren’t, but let’s assume your premise, that Mullen is making up for misses on the recruiting trail, is correct. What the hell is wrong with that? It’s not illegal. You build the roster in the best way you can. If you miss on a target or two and need to supplement via the portal, then go for it. Pruitt missed on some o-line targets, so he grabbed Mays when the opportunity arose. Same deal. Was Aubrey Solomon related to someone at UT?? When Pruitt picked him up from Michigan via the portal, were you and everyone else attaching something nefarious to that, or claiming it’s because he can’t recruit?

lol my bias? Your posts are the most bias I’ve seen. Saying UGA has an easy first 6 games when UF has played 1 more ranked opponent in those games than UGA since 2017, acting like a player leaving early for the draft is a sign of something bad, and now saying Mullen is hitting on his targets. UGA got Rosemy and Smith from Florida when Florida needed a WR. Clemson took Bowman from UF when UF needed a RB. Mullen isn’t hitting on his targets and that’s evident by him using the portal so much. It’s better to use the portal than go without, I agree there. However, it’s an issue when you constantly have to use it because you keep missing out on instate targets to out of state schools.

 

[Jaws]

lol my bias? Your posts are the most bias I’ve seen. Saying UGA has an easy first 6 games when UF has played 1 more ranked opponent in those games than UGA since 2017, acting like a player leaving early for the draft is a sign of something bad, and now saying Mullen is hitting on his targets. UGA got Rosemy and Smith from Florida when Florida needed a WR. Clemson took Bowman from UF when UF needed a RB. Mullen isn’t hitting on his targets and that’s evident by him using the portal so much. It’s better to use the portal than go without, I agree there. However, it’s an issue when you constantly have to use it because you keep missing out on instate targets to out of state schools.

You never answered the Pruitt/Aubrey Solomon question.

And regarding Mullen’s recruiting, you really haven’t been paying attention. He’s literally in the process of destroying that narrative with this current class. Yes, he missed on Bowman, as did 100+ other teams.

Your concern should be Kirby and the shambles in which Georgia finds themselves. He’s a three loss season or a loss to Florida from being on the hot seat.

 

[Atlanta917]

You never answered the Pruitt/Aubrey Solomon question.

And regarding Mullen’s recruiting, you really haven’t been paying attention. He’s literally in the process of destroying that narrative with this current class. Yes, he missed on Bowman, as did 100+ other teams.

Your concern should be Kirby and the shambles in which Georgia finds themselves. He’s a three loss season or a loss to Florida from being on the hot seat.

lol what? Kirby has owned MuLLLen and won the SEC/made the playoffs, he’s fine. Last time UGA had a frosh QB they won the SEC. Losing Cade hurts, but luckily UGA still has 3 5*’s on the line and 1 committed. It’s literally the deepest position on the team. UF needs to be concerned about Grantham and his inability to get the defense off the field on 3rd down. If that doesn’t change it won’t matter because MuLLLen has yet to score more tban 17 against Kirby in any game.

As for recruiting, it’s not a good look when instate targets at positions of need go elsewhere. Rosemy is a high 4*, Arian Smith is about to be a 5*, Bowman is a 5*, and Jalen Carter is about to be a 5*. What they all have in common is that they’re all Florida kids going somewhere other than Florida.

You also conveniently left out your first 6 game narrative. How is Florida’s first 6 any tougher than UGA’s when there’s a one ranked team difference. Who was that one ranked team? Kentucky, who beat Florida and then lost to UGA. Weird you crap on Kentucky and they’re the one ranked team difference lol. How are you gonna call someone else bias when you put out purposefully incorrect info?

 

[Jaws]

lol what? Kirby has owned MuLLLen and won the SEC/made the playoffs, he’s fine. Last time UGA had a frosh QB they won the SEC. Losing Cade hurts, but luckily UGA still has 3 5*’s on the line and 1 committed. It’s literally the deepest position on the team. UF needs to be concerned about Grantham and his inability to get the defense off the field on 3rd down. If that doesn’t change it won’t matter because MuLLLen has yet to score more tban 17 against Kirby in any game.

As for recruiting, it’s not a good look when instate targets at positions of need go elsewhere. Rosemy is a high 4*, Arian Smith is about to be a 5*, Bowman is a 5*, and Jalen Carter is about to be a 5*. What they all have in common is that they’re all Florida kids going somewhere other than Florida.

You also conveniently left out your first 6 game narrative. How is Florida’s first 6 any tougher than UGA’s when there’s a one ranked team difference. Who was that one ranked team? Kentucky, who beat Florida and then lost to UGA. Weird you crap on Kentucky and they’re the one ranked team difference lol. How are you gonna call someone else bias when you put out purposefully incorrect info?

Kirby has underachieved with all that talent. He’s done less than Mark Richt did. Yes, you’ve got scoreboard on the Smart/Mullen head to head right now until Mullen changes that on the field, which will be soon.

Regarding Mullen recruiting the stare of Florida, 16 of his 23 commitments are kids from Florida. That’s 70% of the entire class. As you well know, Florida is loaded with talent. If he signed every great player from Florida he’d have about 100 guys in the class. He owns Florida right now, as he should. He signed more top 100 kids from Florida than FSU and Miami combined and well more than Clemson, Bama and Georgia. This works both ways, by the way. Look at what Mullen has pulled out of Georgia; Emory Jones, Brenton Cox, Rashad Torrence, Trey Dean, Dameon Pierce and others. Kirby can’t let those kids get away!, using your logic.

You’re disrespecting Tennessee. Tennessee is Florida’s third game almost yearly. They get respect from me as a rival. You’ve got Bama week 3 this year. That’ll be about the time y’all start kicking Barney Rubble out the door.

 

[Atlanta917]

Kirby has underachieved with all that talent. He’s done less than Mark Richt did. Yes, you’ve got scoreboard on the Smart/Mullen head to head right now until Mullen changes that on the field, which will be soon.

Regarding Mullen recruiting the stare of Florida, 16 of his 23 commitments are kids from Florida. That’s 70% of the entire class. As you well know, Florida is loaded with talent. If he signed every great player from Florida he’d have about 100 guys in the class. He owns Florida right now, as he should. He signed more top 100 kids from Florida than FSU and Miami combined and well more than Clemson, Bama and Georgia. This works both ways, by the way. Look at what Mullen has pulled out of Georgia; Emory Jones, Brenton Cox, Rashad Torrence, Trey Dean, Dameon Pierce and others. Kirby can’t let those kids get away!, using your logic.

You’re disrespecting Tennessee. Tennessee is Florida’s third game almost yearly. They get respect from me as a rival. You’ve got Bama week 3 this year. That’ll be about the time y’all start kicking Barney Rubble out the door.

Kirby did less than Richt? Kirby took a team of half Richt kids and half Kirby kids to the natty, something Richt never did. He also won the east 3 consecutive years which is something Richt never did as well. Smart currently has a winning record against top 10 teams. Have you seen Richt’s record against top 10 teams? lol this is the bias I’m talking about. It took Saban, Meyer, Dabo, and Spurrier longer than 2 years to see their first natty. Acting like Smart is a bad coach because he didn’t hit the ground running like Saban in his prime is insane. I doubt you’ll find anyone that’ll say his first 4 years have been a failure. In fact, he’s more accomplished than Mullen with less time as a HC.

As for the recruiting, UGA may miss on instate kids to get higher rated kids out of state. If Mullen was doing that then I wouldn’t be criticizing his recruiting. Unless you think UGA’s issue is recruiting, I wouldn’t choose to die on this hill.

I’m not disrespecting UT. They’ve hit a rough patch, but that doesn’t mean it counts as a ranked game for UF. You acted like UGA plays no ranked teams early and were wrong. Then instead of admitting you either knew and didn’t care or just didn’t check you’re doubling down. If you want to appear to be neutral, or unbiased, that’s not a good look. The bama game will definitely be a tough 1, but bama also lost a ton of players to the draft, including a junior QB, and according to you that’s a sign of their program crumbling. Now are you starting to see your bias? They’ll have a new QB and WR’s. Their defense was abysmal last season and they didn’t beat a single ranked team in the regular season. Even if UGA loses this game, they’ll still control their own destiny because Florida still has to go through UGA and LSU.

 

[Jaws]

Kirby did less than Richt? Kirby took a team of half Richt kids and half Kirby kids to the natty, something Richt never did. He also won the east 3 consecutive years which is something Richt never did as well. Smart currently has a winning record against top 10 teams. Have you seen Richt’s record against top 10 teams? lol this is the bias I’m talking about. It took Saban, Meyer, Dabo, and Spurrier longer than 2 years to see their first natty. Acting like Smart is a bad coach because he didn’t hit the ground running like Saban in his prime is insane. I doubt you’ll find anyone that’ll say his first 4 years have been a failure. In fact, he’s more accomplished than Mullen with less time as a HC.

As for the recruiting, UGA may miss on instate kids to get higher rated kids out of state. If Mullen was doing that then I wouldn’t be criticizing his recruiting. Unless you think UGA’s issue is recruiting, I wouldn’t choose to die on this hill.

I’m not disrespecting UT. They’ve hit a rough patch, but that doesn’t mean it counts as a ranked game for UF. You acted like UGA plays no ranked teams early and were wrong. Then instead of admitting you either knew and didn’t care or just didn’t check you’re doubling down. If you want to appear to be neutral, or unbiased, that’s not a good look. The bama game will definitely be a tough 1, but bama also lost a ton of players to the draft, including a junior QB, and according to you that’s a sign of their program crumbling. Now are you starting to see your bias? They’ll have a new QB and WR’s. Their defense was abysmal last season and they didn’t beat a single ranked team in the regular season. Even if UGA loses this game, they’ll still control their own destiny because Florida still has to go through UGA and LSU.

Took them “to the Natty.” Took them “to the playoffs.” “Won the SEC East.” I love how Georgia fans have to skirt around not winning a national championship since 1980.

When Florida beats y’all again, and it’s coming, it’ll be worse for that fan base than when Kirby pissed away those championship games.

Meanwhile, Cade Mays left and his family is suing Georgia. Brenton Cox couldn’t wait to leave. The Zach Evans saga is raising some serious questions, couldn’t hold on to Fromm who by nearly all accounts could have used another year in school. His offense is decimated, he has Pickens as the only proven returning player and he may not even be available because of grades. They had an arrest about every 3 weeks last offseason.

Lack of institutional control. Start your coaching search soon.

 

[Atlanta917]

Took them “to the Natty.” Took them “to the playoffs.” “Won the SEC East.” I love how Georgia fans have to skirt around not winning a national championship since 1980.

When Florida beats y’all again, and it’s coming, it’ll be worse for that fan base than when Kirby pissed away those championship games.

Meanwhile, Cade Mays left and his family is suing Georgia. Brenton Cox couldn’t wait to leave. The Zach Evans saga is raising some serious questions, couldn’t hold on to Fromm who by nearly all accounts could have used another year in school. His offense is decimated, he has Pickens as the only proven returning player and he may not even be available because of grades. They had an arrest about every 3 weeks last offseason.

Lack of institutional control. Start your coaching search soon.

Most rational ppl can see there are steps on the way to a natty. If you want to be dense and not admit that then that’s fine. However, the world isn’t black and white. First, Richt never got there, so it’s absolutely relevant. Second, seeing a first time HC hit those markers is generally what ppl look for since they don’t expect first time HC’s to win it all their first few years on the job. Saban didn’t, Meyer didn’t, Dabo didn’t; so I guess they’re bad coaches according to you.

Kids transfer all the time. Particularly at schools that recruit well. Mays wanted to go back home and play with his brother near his family. Bama, OSU, and Clemson lose players to the portal every year. Everyone team does. The fact you think it’s a sign at UGA and not bama just shows your bias. Fromm left because he got a second round grade. QB’s leave early all the time. Tua, Peyton, Watson, Murray, etc. Teams reach on QB’s every year, just look at the Duke QB the giants selected. The fact you bring up Evans destroys what little credibility you had left. Literally every school has seen the issues he has. LSU backed off, bama backed off, and Texas backed off. Evans then has another incident and UGA backs off. UGA gets rid of the problem players, like Cox. Where did Cox end up again?

It’s fine if you want to be a Florida homer. Just don’t do it under the guise of being impartial. You hold UGA to standards you hold no other team to. The non-issues you try to make look big happen at every big school that recruits well, which is why it doesn’t happen at UF. As far as arrests go, how many domestic violence cases did UF players have last year? Why is Mullen fine with his players beating women? That seems like a lack of control imo.

 

[Jaws]

Most rational ppl can see there are steps on the way to a natty.

And the winner of the 2019, steps away from national championship award, goes too.... for their third conservative year.... Kirby Smart and the Georgia Bulldogs! (Crowd goes wild). Hang those banners!!

My man, if steps away counted for anything, Will Muschamp would have something after going 11-1 in 2012. Dan Mullen is steps away right now at 11-2. That’s what I mean when I say Georgia fans have to hang on to these meaningless happy phrases to make up for zero national titles in 40 years.

Hang in there, if Ed Orgeron can do it, Kirby can.